Posted by Arsenal

Tbh I kinda don't blame most graal city afkers. How else are you to promote your guild other than recruiting people off of your friends list or promote your codeshop?

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Posted by Livid

Lmfao smh its like you stalk this section of the forums to do nothing but talk garbage XD this is extremely off topic and its gonna end with colin deleting these again just saying if you dont get it yet, I understand if its complicated, anyways back on topic!
(Not responding if it isnt)

Lmao, just shush and keep making ur Japanese whatevers  

Posted by NeoValeria

Lmao, just shush and keep making ur Japanese whatevers

hi doublelift  

I would even settle for 500 ms lag cap. Just sparred this person called "s-12" and couldn't even see him/her move for 2-3 seconds at a time. Why is that being allowed in the arena?  

Posted by Unknown

I would even settle for 500 ms lag cap. Just sparred this person called "s-12" and couldn't even see him/her move for 2-3 seconds at a time. Why is that being allowed in the arena?

I mean...I'm sure Graal would be fantastically wealthy if we didn't allow people far away to play it...

Better yet. If you aren't in Texas (where the server is at) then you don't get to play cause ping is too much. There.



I swear you people will never shut up after losing to someone who lags. Sarah beats me all the time, never see me cry about her living far from the server.  

Posted by Fulgore

I mean...I'm sure Graal would be fantastically wealthy if we didn't allow people far away to play it...

According to the chart in https://sensortower.com/ios/us/toons...plus/350608510,
60% of income comes from US. Highest lag areas (other) make up 12%

To me, fixing the server isn't so I can beat people. It's just to have a better experience and a more positive community. So telling people to shut up, just shows that you are probably one to easily give up on things.  

Posted by Aguzo

According to the chart in https://sensortower.com/ios/us/toons...plus/350608510,
60% of income comes from US. Highest lag areas (other) make up 12%

To me, fixing the server isn't so I can beat people. It's just to have a better experience and a more positive community. So telling people to shut up, just shows that you are probably one to easily give up on things.

So if you owned this company you'd be perfectly content with limiting your income to 60% of what you're currently getting as well as get backlash from foreign players all to satisfy the complaints of people who lost some spars?

I'm no business major but that sounds like a horrible decision to me.  

Posted by Fulgore

So if you owned this company you'd be perfectly content with limiting your income to 60% of what you're currently getting as well as get backlash from foreign players all to satisfy the complaints of people who lost some spars?

I'm no business major but that sounds like a horrible decision to me.

It's like you didn't read my post, the chart says other = 12%, not 40%...  

Posted by Aguzo

It's like you didn't read my post, the chart says other = 12%, not 40%...

My post jokingly discussed all foreign regions. Leaving only America. You said yourself America was 60% of the income. 100-60=40. You lose 40. Keep 60. I mean as long as people are complaining about even Canadians and Mexicans lagging we only have the US right?

This whole topic is ****ing ridiculous. People lose spars then care enough to actually attempt at cutting off parts of the world from playing graal with a ping cap.

I'm beating a dead horse though. It's already been said that this idea is bad, and a fluctuating ping idea won't work. Should just close it.

Edit: Relooked at the pie chart- Great Britain and Australia (which are also constantly referred to as delaying regions) make up 11 percent, added to the 24 of other, making 35. That's even if we assume people didn't say Canadians lagged, but they do. Add in Canada and look-44%. Either way you look at it that's a ton of profit you would lose and I pray you don't actually reply and say you would make this decision.  

The 12% have the nastiest lag, while the other regions don't have as much as they do.

100% - 12% = 60%?...
100% - 60% = 12%?...
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Posted by Aguzo

The 12% have the nastiest lag, while the other regions don't have as much as they do.

100 - 12 = 60?...
100 - 60 = 12?...
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I don't think "nasty lag" was a topic of discussion. The discussion was lag and the people's consensus on which kind of players lag. It's great that you think the 12% are the only bothersome ones, less regional discrimination is nice! But unfortunately most of the spar community is not as understanding and they deem everyone outside of the US (even some inside the US) to lag.

Also it's flawed logic to change the number I used in the computation to make it wrong then proceed to insult my basic subtraction skills...

You should go into media as a profession though cause it seems to work there!  

Posted by Fulgore

I mean...I'm sure Graal would be fantastically wealthy if we didn't allow people far away to play it...

Better yet. If you aren't in Texas (where the server is at) then you don't get to play cause ping is too much. There.



I swear you people will never shut up after losing to someone who lags. Sarah beats me all the time, never see me cry about her living far from the server.

Who said I lost?

And I've said this countless times that it's not "foreign players". Many foreign players I spar are fine. I am talking about the handful of players that get away with murder due to their intensified delay or have super ****ty internet. There are even some "americans" who have super ****ty internet. I don't see how stopping less than 1 percent of sparrers from sparring would really hurt the game. I'm also not talking about the average delayer. I'm fine with some delay. You can at least spar them somewhat. I am talking about people who jump from one end to the other over 3-4 seconds, giving a delayed teleporting effect. So get out of here with the "if you're a good sparrer you'll win" crap. For the average delayer I will agree with you. But for the handful of people who shouldn't be allowed to spar until they fix their internet connection, I won't just accept that it's okay.

Also, the type of lag I am talking about has little to do with the servers location or the servers in general. Because then more foreign players would be like what I have described. But their internet seems more than capable.  

Posted by Unknown

Who said I lost?

And I've said this countless times that it's not "foreign players". Many foreign players I spar are fine. I am talking about the handful of players that get away with murder due to their intensified delay or have super ****ty internet. There are even some "americans" who have super ****ty internet. I don't see how stopping less than 1 percent of sparrers from sparring would really hurt the game. I'm also not talking about the average delayer. I'm fine with some delay. You can at least spar them somewhat. I am talking about people who jump from one end to the other over 3-4 seconds, giving a delayed teleporting effect. So get out of here with the "if you're a good sparrer you'll win" crap. For the average delayer I will agree with you. But for the handful of people who shouldn't be allowed to spar until they fix their internet connection, I won't just accept that it's okay.

Well we're still beating a dead horse then, cause adding a ping cap doesn't fix warp my friend. The ping fluctuation cap that was discussed would do the trick but it's also been said that this can't happen until the servers upgrade (which during times where there are a lot of people on contributes to the warping problem itself).

Also, definitely not less then 1% of people exhibit warp, much less delay.  

Posted by Fulgore

Well we're still beating a dead horse then, cause adding a ping cap doesn't fix warp my friend. The ping fluctuation cap that was discussed would do the trick but it's also been said that this can't happen until the servers upgrade (which during times where there are a lot of people on contributes to the warping problem itself).

Also, definitely not less then 1% of people exhibit warp, much less delay.

If you have a constant lag cap, as soon as someone who is sparring is pinged at higher than the cap, they would be kicked and lose the spar. I don't see why we would need a fluctuating lag cap.

I can only speak from personal experience, but I spar around 50-60 different people a day that I play. Most days I only encounter 1-2 people with the lag I'm talking about, if any. But I can't conclude on the percentages with such a small sample size.  

Posted by Unknown

If you have a constant lag cap, as soon as someone who is sparring is pinged at higher than the cap, they would be kicked and lose the spar. I don't see why we would need a fluctuating lag cap.

I can only speak from personal experience, but I spar around 50-60 different people a day that I play. Most days I only encounter 1-2 people with the lag I'm talking about, if any. But I can't conclude on the percentages with such a small sample size.

Well even people with super low ping can randomly spike really high for a super short amount of time, and anyone on the border of whatever cap that may be is likely to never finish a spar. I'm also pretty sure the server itself has little spikes which would just stop the spar in that scenario or something weird. That's why I'd like the idea of the fluctuating ping cap (though not so close as to where those minor spikes will trigger anything) but the server is why it can't happen.

Basically most of these problems stem from the server not holding up too well.