Removing losses makes sparring stats about as useful to show whos good as tower time is at telling which guilds are strong.  

Posted by Imprint

Removing losses makes sparring stats about as useful to show whos good as tower time is at telling which guilds are strong.

Losses would be replaced by tiers, would show up as

Rank: Gold Wins: 4003

Tiers will show who is strong.

Losses don't have to be removed, but I feel like it would be better to do that, since they are a pointless stat. Lots of good people have ratios that don't compare to their skill. Then there are the selective sparrers, who definetely don't compare to their 3:1/5:1 stats.  

we had one in darkshire 10 years ago that was recruited for having 100000 deaths, his name was *MaIcom (Darkshire)  

Posted by Hikaru

on UN they didn't have ratios as the official spar stats.

You do know you're referencing a completely dead server, right?

Also: the sparring community on UN was toxic as hell for a while.  

I feel like losses should be removed. Sparring isn't as fun because you always need to make sure you're not screwing up your stats. It's def not the first thing in my mind, but the thought that by sparring better players I am screwing up my stats is always In the back of my head.  

Half of my friends on graal don't like sparring because they have a bad ratio and don't want to mess it up even more. This stops people from wanting to spar, making the community pretty small in comparison to pkers and towerers.  

Posted by Albie

Half of my friends on graal don't like sparring because they have a bad ratio and don't want to mess it up even more. This stops people from wanting to spar, making the community pretty small in comparison to pkers and towerers.

Because someone losing a tower or dying doesn't show in your stats.  

I agree that losses should be removed too. I always see people stop sparring because scared of messing up their spar record/ratio. The selective sparrers are here anyway because they are afraid of having a bad spar record so they decided to be selective.

and that "will you be my boyfriend" lol  

Maybe we should have an opinion to reset the spars, like with every other server.
I only have 500 wins atm, so it honestly wouldn't be that hard to get it back lol  

I only don't like this idea because you keep shoving it down our throats every thread.  

I honestly worked my ass off for this 10k win count, If I wasn't horrible early on I could of easily gone 10k-2k but tbh I don't care that I have 10000 wins and 4280 losses, it shows my experience and that I've been sparring for a long time.  

people who try to not **** up their stats are trying to hide the fact that there is someone better than them

its only natural that you can lose too  

Posted by kush420swagYOLO

I only don't like this idea because you keep shoving it down our throats every thread.

it's his determination man  

Posted by Hikaru

Why should losses be removed?

They cause people to not want to spar, because they don't want to mess anything up, instead of just having fun. I personally don't care about my losses.

Ratios are pointless, on UN they didn't have ratios as the official spar stats.

If you keep losses, people might not want to spar others with similar skill.

Losses demotivate, people who start sparring shouldn't focus on losses, but rather their wins. They won't think about their losses, because only their tier would matter.

Wins will show how much you have sparred, making some people veterans.

I'm sorry, for a moment there I thought this sounded like the USA's education system. Everyone gets a trophy, right?

Losses can be counted as a story. Even if it is a mere number it has a significance. Especially if at one point there comes to be betting on GSTs (unlikely but possible). I'm all about "legacies" and being remembered for doing something. If someone's losses count as part of their legacy on iClassic, I certainly wouldn't like that.

On topic:
Holy crap you are a genius. Why is this not a thing? I'm not big on the sparring but I would love to see this implemented. I'm fairly "new" to sparring and the trouble I have is finding an equal match or even semi-equal. I try to keep on fighting whoever it is but they are just too skilled. I have no way to practice (If practicing is even a thing I can do, I'll be lucky if I'll get 100 wins in the next four years) if I don't have someone who I'm on an equal ground with. This system should help protect people like me who are simply boosted off of.

As for implementation, it may not be as simple as it seems to do. But I could see it working similar to how queue events work. Perhaps even a building you can queue in? But, hey, beta testing is a thing soonish. So it could happen!

A bit off topic again: Aguzo is very innovative, I would highly suggest picking him for beta testing. That is if Aguzo signed up for it.  

Posted by Pickles

Everyone gets a trophy, right?

Yeah.

If you are unskilled/new, the system would match you against people in same tiers, and you wouldn't have a hard time getting some wins against other new players, and at the same time learning how to get better at spar, and moving around.

Thanks, hopefully.