Posted by Kuz

Yeah but what if nobody on my tier system is not online. Does that mean I can't spar or have to wait for them to log on?

Trust me, there will be plenty on for you to spar. You can always find a player match instead of ranked, which will matchmake you against any other sparrer (also instant/stated in op)  

Posted by zideruicmirage

closest one to tier faces you just like any other matchmaking system(i assume that is)

Yeah facing someone in a lower tier. someone could just log on at a certain time where nobody on their tier is online and just constantly face the lower tier group and get more wins.  

Posted by Kuz

Yeah facing someone in a lower tier. someone could just log on at a certain time where nobody on their tier is online and just constantly face the lower tier group and get more wins.

They don't get any decent points from it though. Check point system section aswell, could be updated... Read, don't be lazy.  

Posted by Kuz

Yeah facing someone in a lower tier. someone could just log on at a certain time where nobody on their tier is online and just constantly face the lower tier group and get more wins.

"Obviously if you face someone below you, it would have to have a steep penalty for loss, to dissuade people from selectively sparring at times where competition is lacking."  

Posted by zideruicmirage

"Obviously if you face someone below you, it would have to have a steep penalty for loss, to dissuade people from selectively sparring at times where competition is lacking."

Thank you non lazy zid.

I realize that the op is long, and has a lot of information, but I wanted to go through all major key points, so that everyone would be on the same page as to how system 4 might work/have to be in order to work.  

WALL of words that I didn't bother to read all.. but saw something bet point system..what happened to this?(I mean the guild hrs etc turning to points system/maybe with spar too linked in)

But As I said on another thread the ldrbds should be total wins in day/week/overall (Although for day and week its +1for win & -1for loss so still competitive[and slightly shows active/good sparrers) this solves the selective picking of spar and inactivity keeping high in list as more wins will push others ahead.  

Posted by Hikaru

Thank you non lazy zid.

I realize that the op is long, and has a lot of information, but I wanted to go through all major key points, so that everyone would be on the same page as to how system 4 might work.

I just skimmed through the main points in the OP since i'm on my phone and it's annoying to view posts with pictures in it since it doesn't resize on my phone.


I'd just think it'd be hard to control since we have a lack of admins and no system is ever full proof it won't take long for someone to abuse it or something. I said it's a good idea but it'd be hard to control. I'm just knit-picking the small things.  

Posted by MBK

then why do tower takers get a prize at a certain target...why not Sparrers...they should also get hats at 10K,20K or whatever.

I'm pretty sure they used to/maybe still is but was capped after certain amount got  

Posted by G Fatal

WALL of words that I didn't bother to read all.. but saw something bet point system..what happened to this?(I mean the guild hrs etc turning to points system/maybe with spar too linked in)

But As I said on another thread the ldrbds should be total wins in day/week/overall (Although for day and week its +1for win & -1for loss so still competitive[and slightly shows active/good sparrers) this solves the selective picking of spar and inactivity keeping high in list as more wins will push others ahead.

No because that would not measure your skill as a sparrer x-x, wins and losses wouldn't matter. Tiers would place you around a certain level, depending on how well you do against the people around those levels.

Posted by Kuz

I just skimmed through the main points in the OP since i'm on my phone and it's annoying to view posts with pictures in it since it doesn't resize on my phone.


I'd just think it'd be hard to control since we have a lack of admins and no system is ever full proof it won't take long for someone to abuse it or something. I said it's a good idea but it'd be hard to control. I'm just knit-picking the small things.

You can't abuse it. I added all the defenses that abused the past systems. You can't selective spar, you can't camp on ladder. Don't remember what else used to happen besides those two. You don't need admins to control it? Unless someone is hacking. Which all you have to do is report them.  

Spar isn't skill when 9/10 of them delay or lag.
Tiers play there own tier? (if so that will make it more inactive) tiers play other tiers? would ruin point of the tiers and would still not measure skill accurately.  

Posted by Hikaru

No because that would not measure your skill as a sparrer x-x, wins and losses wouldn't matter. Tiers would place you around a certain level, depending on how well you do against the people around those levels.



You can't abuse it. I added all the defenses that abused the past systems. You can't selective spar, you can't camp on ladder. Don't remember what else used to happen besides those two. You don't need admins to control it? Unless someone is hacking. Which all you have to do is report them.

Alright I think it'd combat the activity downfall of sparring because everyone will try and move up. Maybe have a reward for each tier you move up?  

Posted by G Fatal

Spar isn't skill when 9/10 of them delay or lag.
Tiers play there own tier? (if so that will make it more inactive) tiers play other tiers? would ruin point of the tiers and would still not measure skill accurately.

Complaining about lag should hurt your tier placement too ;P

I'd be bronze  

Posted by Kuz

Alright I think it'd combat the activity downfall of sparring because everyone will try and move up. Maybe have a reward for each tier you move up?

Those were added. I'll just make it bold saying reward section in op.  

No idea how some of you put up with the lag and delay.  

Posted by Crono

No idea how some of you put up with the lag and delay.