Posted by Coco88

I semi agree and semi don't.. Classic might not pump out content after content but that's because we're a little more strict than other servers when it comes to what we release. When we do release something we want it to make sense and look nice and function properly. Sometimes depending on what we're working on, that can take a while. We're also preparing things for minor releases and updates at the same time that's we're working on bigger projects (i.e. new emotes)

Due to the massive increase of players, we also have less time for events and now have new ways of hosting said events. The GPs are always busy responding to reports and the gfx team is always busy keeping up with content. When we do get to host events we have to be very careful as well. The slightest mistake could cause immense lag for the players, and no one wants that.

Back when there was only 1800 or less players we could be a lot more lax about what we did, since there was a lot less to worry about.

I understand the majority of what we release is hat-based, and if that doesn't work for you, then what small releases would you like to see? the more feedback we can get from the players about what they want the better. Some things simply can't be done, but every now and again we get some really good ideas that we follow through with. SO if you have anything you'd like to see (preferable something small) then let me know :o

I'd love to see more 'Classic' themed furniture, to fit that 'Retro' look. It suits Graal the best. Red Barn has some great furniture, but they don't really fit in with the game's style.  

Posted by Coco88

I understand the majority of what we release is hat-based, and if that doesn't work for you, then what small releases would you like to see? the more feedback we can get from the players about what they want the better. Some things simply can't be done, but every now and again we get some really good ideas that we follow through with. SO if you have anything you'd like to see (preferable something small) then let me know :o

I just want to say I like this approach, kudos.  

Posted by Craftz1

If you don't like the game then don't play it and go outside or something. There is more to the world than Graal.

Though that is true, your signature begs to differ  

Ahhh forum newbies fighting with forum vets....

Guys I love minor tweaks and updates so much. Kinda a little secret for forum users to impress others :-)

Classic's staff is amazing.. They are friendly, helpful, and great friends as long as you don't come off as if they are gods.

Graal classic grew massive really quick. Imagine it as a bush: it is a large plant, but lacking thickness and fruit (large map, playerbase, little content). The administrators are gardeners, lay fertilizer (detailed updates) every so often. After some time, the bush is a thick, fruitful plant (large playerbase, large amounts of content). The bush then flowers, representing a happy, large playerbase and staff.

The server is growing. It was large with little content. The staff has added more content, and improved smaller, but important things. Time is key.  

Posted by Darklink

Though that is true, your signature begs to differ

he already stated that most of that was from his early days on classic. Most players no-life it in the beginning(especially 11-16 year old's) and they eventually come to their senses(well most of them, some will be part of the council).  

Am I the only one who thinks taking a few select players opinions on guild activities and most likely disregarding everyone else is a terrible idea?  

Posted by iHot

Am I the only one who thinks taking a few select players opinions on guild activities and most likely disregarding everyone else is a terrible idea?

Yes but thats not what Dusty said at all.  

Posted by iHot

Am I the only one who thinks taking a few select players opinions on guild activities and most likely disregarding everyone else is a terrible idea?

Yes. My experience with this forum and in-game community is that there are very few people who can conceptualize and understand what would be good for the game. Too many people suggest and beg for things that narrowly benefit themselves. Not enough are able to understand that your own personal requirements might not be what makes the game more active and enjoyable.

I'm fine with a select few players choosing what happens, as long as they are intelligent and responsible individuals. I'd much rather see Rufus, Dusty, and FP4 handling changes rather than some handful of random guild leaders (or whatever the current idea is, I only skimmed). They're people who are smart enough to turn down something even when the vast majority support it. Just because a lot of people want something doesn't make it good or right for the game.

Like I said in another thread recently though, I'm pretty sure the difficulty isn't in finding the right ideas but more the people willing to volunteer their development skills to make them happen. Every single person in this thread is capable of coming up with ideas on how to make the game "better" (though I'm sure some of them are awful), but 1 or 2 people who have replied are actually capable of scripting, levels, and graphics.  

The only real features I see as plausible that's been suggested is guild houses actually being what they are, in terms of a place members can drop furniture into one place (not the leaders GH, an actual guild house that links to the guild).

A log to see the recent activeness of members, you'd have to be given the power to access it.

Something about joining and leaving, I can't remember what exactly was suggested, but it was a good idea.

Things such as 'a daily guild boss quest' seem silly on Classic standards, imo. I'm more inclined towards guild vs guild activies/minigames such as CTF, war etc.  

Posted by Reece

The only real features I see as plausible that's been suggested is guild houses actually being what they are, in terms of a place members can drop furniture into one place (not the leaders GH, an actual guild house that links to the guild).

I was thinking about this idea, and I actually do really like it. It could help with guild events or maybe helping someone farm in their gh, but only the owner could control it.  

Posted by Reece

Yeah we all gave up, we sit there and stare at the ceiling now :0

I knew it!  

Posted by Reece

The only real features I see as plausible that's been suggested is guild houses actually being what they are, in terms of a place members can drop furniture into one place (not the leaders GH, an actual guild house that links to the guild).

A log to see the recent activeness of members, you'd have to be given the power to access it.

Something about joining and leaving, I can't remember what exactly was suggested, but it was a good idea.

Things such as 'a daily guild boss quest' seem silly on Classic standards, imo. I'm more inclined towards guild vs guild activies/minigames such as CTF, war etc.

Uhm, I'm not sure exactly how this thread turned into specifically guild-related discussion, but either way, I'd be on board with this idea as long as they don't touch the current Guild Houses, or at least give us the option. I do use my GH as a guild hangout. But I also enjoy having a much larger house to decorate. If they kept GH's the way they are (but perhaps renamed them "mansions" or something) and instituted this new type of house linked to the whole guild, then I'd be fine with that, as long as the leader can decide who's allowed to place furniture/who isn't/etc etc.  

Posted by Reece

The only real features I see as plausible that's been suggested is guild houses actually being what they are, in terms of a place members can drop furniture into one place (not the leaders GH, an actual guild house that links to the guild).

A log to see the recent activeness of members, you'd have to be given the power to access it.

Something about joining and leaving, I can't remember what exactly was suggested, but it was a good idea.

Things such as 'a daily guild boss quest' seem silly on Classic standards, imo. I'm more inclined towards guild vs guild activies/minigames such as CTF, war etc.

LOVE THIS IDEA!  

Posted by MrSimons

Yes but thats not what Dusty said at all.

Posted by Dusty

If it makes you feel better, I have talked to Rufus about the concept of a "council" being created where a handful of very experienced guild leaders would be gathered and guild changes and the like would be discussed/planned out with their input. Rufus had the same idea as well, it would be a very good way to go about making changes to those aspects of the game while keeping in touch with what's best for the playerbase.

^^^^

Posted by Thallen

Yes. My experience with this forum and in-game community is that there are very few people who can conceptualize and understand what would be good for the game. Too many people suggest and beg for things that narrowly benefit themselves. Not enough are able to understand that your own personal requirements might not be what makes the game more active and enjoyable.

I'm fine with a select few players choosing what happens, as long as they are intelligent and responsible individuals. I'd much rather see Rufus, Dusty, and FP4 handling changes rather than some handful of random guild leaders (or whatever the current idea is, I only skimmed). They're people who are smart enough to turn down something even when the vast majority support it. Just because a lot of people want something doesn't make it good or right for the game.

Like I said in another thread recently though, I'm pretty sure the difficulty isn't in finding the right ideas but more the people willing to volunteer their development skills to make them happen. Every single person in this thread is capable of coming up with ideas on how to make the game "better" (though I'm sure some of them are awful), but 1 or 2 people who have replied are actually capable of scripting, levels, and graphics.

Your post explains exactly why the council should not exist. Guild leaders will probably just support ideas that benefit themselves and will reject any sort of plan to make the game more challenging or entertaining if it gets in the way of what they're already doing.  

Posted by iHot

Your post explains exactly why the council should not exist. Guild leaders will probably just support ideas that benefit themselves and will reject any sort of plan to make the game more challenging or entertaining if it gets in the way of what they're already doing.

And the alternatively is... ? Getting input for every single little and large change from every single player?