I didn't know subs were ordered, I thought they were just there and what ever sub they wanted to use was used, which seems to be the case it isn't the admins fault your team preferred the other sub over you.  

Posted by LiA

Here is an example of what happened today:[/U]
There was a match between (Espiritu) and (Unknown). Their score was 1-1 but apparently the staff hosting this match thought the score was 0-2 so that staff warped both teams out while the match had already gone for almost a minute.

please refrain from starting drama, LiA05

Posted by Natso

if the team actually picked the right players instead of players that have a unfair advantage then non of it would have happened !

i dont know why you think that a delay is always an advantage? im often delaying way too much which makes me lose matches, as long as you dont know how it feels to delya or even to lag that much that you dont even see aynone move, stfu

Posted by Natso

at the end of every Match we still had 3 or more members vs cally and through out all of the match cally was probably the only person who got the majority of the hits... I feel sorry that teams like vdrags had to lose to them for the same exact reason as no one could really hit or beat cally.

yes, because vdragz didnt have australian players, dark, nell and nugget do not live there..

Posted by Natso

Gst is supposed to be where everyone has a chance of winning and brining people like cally in really naked it unfair on other teams

let us DQ people like cally to give everyone else a chance, that is really 'fair'  

While we have a GST thread going, when will android users be aloud to participate in the iDev bracket?? It seems unfair to leave them out.  

have Zinnia host the GST, she's the best admin to me when it comes to events  

Ok then kiah , let's find the top 7 super delayers , then we give them a little spar teaching ( you don't have to have a lot of skill tbh ) and then put them up for gst and see how fairly it's goes. Might aswell gie our selfs god mode!

I think higher up people shoul be hosting , meaning pharaoh , axel , neo , guri , XOR ( maybe ), maybe fp4 and some other experienced admins  

Delayer are easy to beat  

ok what happened to us was , we were going into round 3 off the best off 3 we were tied up 1-1 , Pavi the host warped my team In and everything was fine 2 mins in when we had numbers on them he restarted it cause someone lagged out . Btw this was 4th round Legends Vs 5pa4 , There's proof on YouTube btw . And anyways is 4th
Round a best off 3 or a best off 5 . because everyone is saying it's a best off 3 , But Pavi the host after we were away to win 2-1 said that it's a best off 5 ....  

Posted by Fanta

Heya there

Don't let 10 years old kids host a big tourney like this and get your things done before people like me complain about this.

EXACTLY THIS  

Posted by Thallen

I understand, but what I'm saying is the admin should have done this (because this should be the rules): when he sees Cally lagging, he should wait for the match to end. If Unknown wins, you guys get the win and Cally is removed and then they must use a sub. If Espiritu wins, that win gets taken away from them and Cally is removed and they must use a sub.

I agree on this. It looked unprofessional because they warped both teams out in the middle of the match. They had other options. They could've dragged her out of the match if they felt that she was unhittable instead of putting the issue on the whole team.

Posted by CM CM

Squiggles was pretty mad since she wanted to win so badly, and I told her that maybe things would have been different if she hadn't changed guilds so much.

She was actually in the same GST as me. She left a few minutes before the Mixed's registration closed so the rest of the team actually panicked. When she switched gst, she tried stealing half of the team with her. Eventually she took 1 player, leaving the rest of the team with 3 members for the GST. We still had fun in the GST though. They should really change up some of the GST rules. There was an idea mentioned by Rufus or someone else about a 1 month in advance rule where you had to be in a guild for awhile to be able to participate in the gst. I think that would be really useful idea. Teams usually practice 2-3 weeks to a month ahead anyway so why not add that option?  

Posted by Kuz

Lol admins are really terrible at this game, they should just be called ET (they even suck at that) I don't know what the application for this game to be admin is but it should be redone. I remember hosting the monthly tournaments for Zodiac, and yeah their will always be people that qq just out of rage. But in all honesty in my opinion the admins were just a disaster. I think whoever hires the admins should be stricter.
Firstly Admins are supposed to assist players I assume, otherwise they would be called Events Team. Anyway whenever I see an admin they always have the status "PM Me if you have any questions" let me tell you this, I have pmd admins altogether about 50times never once have I got a reply. To those thinking oh too many people PM Them. Well I always see Poppy in the spar arena and when I ask her for help she walks away.
Far as GST Goes it was really unorganized. Warpers were not up on time I was going through the entire battle arena looking for the viewing rooms, and it took me about 5-10minutes to legit find it (By the way thanks for letting us know where it is admins)
Second of all the subs/cores debate. Can we please get some legit written down rules so admins to make up stuff on the spot saying that you can't some etc. It's just really disappointing that a game that has what 3-4k players can't even organize the one big event they have.
In addition to that Lag? Can we just get a lag limit I mean the admins get swayed by the players for their decisions. It's just not cool because they can't handle a little heat from 1-2 players they let it overfuel their decisions.
Furthermore my god I don't even know Quiondre that well but his ban was amazingly stupid. He got banned for lagging. ON GST DAY HE LAGS AND GETS BANNED? I seriously am losing hope for admins on here.
I am seriously thinking of missing out a GST just to admin a gst match up because admins are supposed to make the game fun and enjoyable for people instead they are making us more pi**ed off.

Just to let you all know I'm not raging we had Scaal for all our matches he was pretty decent, only one situation where the other team had 4 players because their sub was brb or something so instead of d/qing the opponents he postponed the match (which we were cool with) SO yeah.

P.S. Congratulations to everyone in GST hope you had fun even with the embarrassing performance of the admins.

Do you even Classic?  

disgraceful(my gst with brenda) wasnt in the bracket.....

 

The graal police team should be divided into smaller parts. We will still have the police team, but they will have different jobs. Some will be in charge of events (chance, hide and seek, trivia, etc.) some will be in charge of monitoring towering and spar (making sure everything is going ok and replies to questions related to tower/spar, distributes tower hats, hosts GST) some could just be general Graal Police team (monitor reports, bans, laggers, hackers, feedback, etc) and then there could be a "head" of the team, which monitors the entire Graal Police team (Neo or Axel maybe.) This way each admin could undergo proper training, so when something like the GST comes up, the admins apart of the towering/sparring section of the team will be ready. These will be the ones who host the GST. That way we will know that the people hosting the GST have underwent training and are prepared, and not someone a part of the Events team hosting the GST. Then fewer disputes, such as Unknown vs Espiritu, won't happen as often, because we will have qualified admins apart of the spar/tower section hosting.  

So it seems alot of assumptions have been made. Cally did infact not lag beyond an acceptable level. but Espiritu vs Unknown issues stem from a more than unhelpfull yurieru.

Ok so part 1) he summons us, JR is offline (im on sub tag) and NightFear is not summoned. <-flaw in gst system not out issue. So anyway our good friend Yurieru decides this is a fair match up so starts. Queue Leah. She then arrives and lucky/unluckily summons us all out saying the match is unfair. now im no expert but i wouldnt count this as a win to either team.

Part 2) espiritu wins 1, Unknown wins 1. So correct me if im wrong yurieru but thats 1-1.

Part 3) we all join happily and are busy sparring when next thing i know we are all warped out randomly just after yurieru declares "just decide a winner". We are there and then pronounced losers. At this point im thinking to myself "someone check his pm history because im sure Unknown has bribed the noob free access to their code shop or somthing"
(im aware unknown did not bribe, its a joke)

So we start Pming him and he just gives pathetic one word answers. And then just blames Leah for the whole thing even though she was trying to help. So +1 Leah, -1 Yurieru.

I watched the whole thing from the room and it was the most pathetic attempt at hosting a gst match ever. After making a public status many more pmd me that yurieru scrooed up their matches too and randomly declared a winner.

The icing on the cake was getting banned for saying "he couldn't work in burger refuge as he'd probably get that wrong too"

(Again, Nothing against Unknown it was all Yurieru's fault. Would love to have a fair fight against you anytime)  

Posted by Ezio

So it seems alot of assumptions have been made. Cally did infact not lag beyond an acceptable level. but Espiritu vs Unknown issues stem from a more than unhelpfull yurieru.

Ok so part 1) he summons us, JR is offline (im on sub tag) and NightFear is not summoned. <-flaw in gst system not out issue. So anyway our good friend Yurieru decides this is a fair match up so starts. Queue Leah. She then arrives and lucky/unluckily summons us all out saying the match is unfair. now im no expert but i wouldnt count this as a win to either team.

Part 2) espiritu wins 1, Unknown wins 1. So correct me if im wrong yurieru but thats 1-1.

Part 3) we all join happily and are busy sparring when next thing i know we are all warped out randomly just after yurieru declares "just decide a winner". We are there and then pronounced losers. At this point im thinking to myself "someone check his pm history because im sure Unknown has bribed the noob free access to their code shop or somthing"
(im aware unknown did not bribe, its a joke)

So we start Pming him and he just gives pathetic one word answers. And then just blames Leah for the whole thing even though she was trying to help. So +1 Leah, -1 Yurieru.

I watched the whole thing from the room and it was the most pathetic attempt at hosting a gst match ever. After making a public status many more pmd me that yurieru scrooed up their matches too and randomly declared a winner.

The icing on the cake was getting banned for saying "he couldn't work in burger refuge
as he'd probably get that wrong too"

Sad that an idiot like Yurieru is even on staff, just shows how crappy the hiring is.

The admins hosting GST should be familiar with sparring, not morons like Yuri with terrible spar stats.  

Posted by Zetectic

gat dayum
me and Eko switched outfits/names before these matches though (it shows us using our original outfits but swapped names), so that probably helped me and hurt him a lot