a message to all staffmembers about graal "hierarchy" - 3

Emera · 07-07-2012

I completely disagree. There's a hierarchy for a reason. It keeps staff teams and development plans from falling apart. Without organisation and structure, nobody knows what's going on and communication starts breaking down. For a staff team to be capable of producing quality content and moderating players effectively, there needs to be a pecking order so everybody has somebody to go to. Having your say and doing what you want are completely different things.

Higbey · 07-07-2012

20-12

Peter5498 2nd · 07-07-2012

For instance, if a higher up staff member tells a lower staff member to maybe, script an inventory system, then the lower staff would refuse and say he wants to make something else, that literally destroys a server. Everything blows up into chaos if this happens. This is also part of the world itself in real life. I disagree.

Bas! · 07-07-2012

i checked the poll results and most of the people that disagree have a staff position somewhere, which makes this poll kind of useless because the only people that agree are normal players that dont have any experience of what its like being an administrator. of course there are more people are agreeing, but if they would both have the same amount of votes, there would be more votes from administrators in the people that disagree.

Killzone-3 · 07-07-2012

I agree and I have experience of being an administrator ..
Players who agree want to benefit from "some" of the changes that Higbey want to bring like new tile sets.Higbey doesn't want Lower level staff to be scared of bringing great change like a new tile set. Which he feels some staff are scared of doing.

Like Emera said he completely disagrees. That's absolutely fine. But attacking people won't help IERA NEWS...

NCJohn · 07-07-2012

Posted by Killzone-3

I agree and I have experience of being an administrator ..
Players who agree want to benefit from "some" of the changes that Higbey want to bring like new tile sets.Higbey doesn't want Lower level staff to be scared of bringing great change like a new tile set. Which he feels some staff are scared of doing.

Like Emera said he completely disagrees. That's absolutely fine. But attacking people won't help IERA NEWS...

What server were you a staff member on?
Also lower level staff aren't afraid to share opinions and what not. At iEra everyone is free to share their ideas and opinions; their is no opression. However, their are certain things that lower level staff members are physically not allowed to do without permission from the higher up staff members. That's how pretty much all servers, games, buisnesses, ect. work.

Higbey · 07-07-2012

Posted by Peter5498 2nd

For instance, if a higher up staff member tells a lower staff member to maybe, script an inventory system, then the lower staff would refuse and say he wants to make something else, that literally destroys a server. Everything blows up into chaos if this happens. This is also part of the world itself in real life. I disagree.

im not talking about that. you guys are all getting this all wrong, im talking about extreme things where its the right thing to do, not in cases like you guys bring up, im not at all saying staff should be able to just refuse doing projects, im saying they should be able to voice their opinion

NCJohn · 07-07-2012

Posted by Higbey

im not talking about that. you guys are all getting this all wrong, im talking about extreme things where its the right thing to do, not in cases like you guys bring up, im not at all saying staff should be able to just refuse doing projects, im saying they should be able to voice their opinion

You're acting as if graal is the soviet union; where exactly did you get idea that staff are not allowed to voice their opinions? We are allowed to share our own opinions if we want; we just my not have the same opinions as you. :/

Higbey · 07-07-2012

Posted by NCJohn

Your acting as if graal is the soviet union; where exactly did you get idea that staff are not allowed to voice their opinions? We are allowed to share our own opinions if we want; we just my not have the same opinions as you. :/

well yes, just saying sometimes staff say they cant when they didnt try it because they were told not to when they know its the right thing to do it,
its hard to explain, im not saying just let the whole server go to ****, but im definitely not saying the way things are now are okay.

Rexx · 07-07-2012

Posted by Higbey

im not talking about that. you guys are all getting this all wrong, im talking about extreme things where its the right thing to do, not in cases like you guys bring up, im not at all saying staff should be able to just refuse doing projects, im saying they should be able to voice their opinion

Everyone is already able to voice their opinions, what is the point of this thread?

I think racism is bad, see its just stating whats already commonly agreed upon.
Did you want to make a thread so people can agree with you? Needed an ego boost?

Comyt · 07-08-2012

graal is corrupt. haavard paid rashard $90 for a spot in demigod GST and now he is a staff member? he paying them too?

Higbey · 07-08-2012

Posted by Comyt

graal is corrupt. haavard paid rashard $90 for a spot in demigod GST and now he is a staff member? he paying them too?

what does that have to do with this?

Comyt · 07-08-2012

idk i didnt read your giant post. im just here to vent my rage and i saw "higbey" and assumed it was a post about the corruption of stefan and graal.

Higbey · 07-08-2012

Posted by Comyt

idk i didnt read your giant post. im just here to vent my rage and i saw "higbey" and assumed it was a post about the corruption of stefan and graal.

*facepalm*

Comyt · 07-08-2012

its what we all expect when we read your name. now peace out i think im finally done venting, maybe you should stop for a while too.

Poll Results: who agrees
68.18%	I AGREE!
31.82%	I DISAGREE!
Voters: 66. You may not vote on this poll

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Emera Nerd Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Berlin Posts: 3,825	I completely disagree. There's a hierarchy for a reason. It keeps staff teams and development plans from falling apart. Without organisation and structure, nobody knows what's going on and communication starts breaking down. For a staff team to be capable of producing quality content and moderating players effectively, there needs to be a pecking order so everybody has somebody to go to. Having your say and doing what you want are completely different things.

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Higbey Not Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Hell Posts: 4,885	20-12

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Peter5498 2nd Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Indiana Posts: 134	For instance, if a higher up staff member tells a lower staff member to maybe, script an inventory system, then the lower staff would refuse and say he wants to make something else, that literally destroys a server. Everything blows up into chaos if this happens. This is also part of the world itself in real life. I disagree.

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Bas! iEra and iDelteria gfx Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 538	i checked the poll results and most of the people that disagree have a staff position somewhere, which makes this poll kind of useless because the only people that agree are normal players that dont have any experience of what its like being an administrator. of course there are more people are agreeing, but if they would both have the same amount of votes, there would be more votes from administrators in the people that disagree.

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Killzone-3 Registered User Join Date: May 2012 Location: your house Posts: 26	I agree and I have experience of being an administrator .. Players who agree want to benefit from "some" of the changes that Higbey want to bring like new tile sets.Higbey doesn't want Lower level staff to be scared of bringing great change like a new tile set. Which he feels some staff are scared of doing. Like Emera said he completely disagrees. That's absolutely fine. But attacking people won't help IERA NEWS...

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Comyt Emperor Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New York Posts: 1,000	graal is corrupt. haavard paid rashard $90 for a spot in demigod GST and now he is a staff member? he paying them too?