Let's face it everyone. The world is coming to an end.  

Posted by Fulgore

If you believe this you need a drastic wake-up call.

Afghanistan proves his point. Technically they could if they didn't care about extinguishing every person in Afghanistan. It's hard to kill them when they can easily blend in with the civilians.

Posted by OG

Honestly if something isn't done about ISIS right now the world will ****ing regret it, IMO trump is the kind of person who will say enough is enough.

His intentions aren't bad at all US media is just so cancerous and extremely one sided, they all love to mark him as some evil ****ing bastard when all he wants to do is solve this problem.

As I've said before, I'm Australian and all these syrian, iraq and other middle eastern migrants flock to our country. They illegally board planes head to Malaysia (where its perfectly safe for them) and then proceed to illegally board a boat and head to Australia.

I'm sick and tired of our government being scared of any sort of criticism, they let these people in and let them live off of tax payers money, they give these people houses, apartments and payed flats. These people never have to work a single day in their life again and its bull****, there are struggling families our there who can't put food on the table for their children and its a disgrace.

This is not a refuge problem. The problem is your government. Don't take it out on people that happen to live in a ****ty place and don't want to die.

Posted by Thallen

Anyone in this thread trying to justify ISIS' behavior should join ISIS and reolocate to the caliphate so the powerhouse militaries of the world may eventually have the pleasure of leaving the remnants of your brains splattered on the wall of whatever foxhole you'll be hiding in

I expect more from you. I don't think anyone is trying to justify what ISIS is doing. It's like that saying goes "there's 3 parts to every story, your side, my side , and the truth" It's not only important to know what they're doing, but also why. You can't find the solution if you don't know what the problem is.

Posted by Conquest

Sorry but I value my relationship with God, and while I don't justify ISIS' behavior, I call bull**** on this idea that killing thousands of innocents in NY to blackmail Islam and bombing Baghdad and killing thousands of innocents, then dragging a war out for 15 years puts you in any place to be telling people you know what justice is. Also, government approved media isn't a source of justice; in fact, thousands of American and Israeli soldiers have secretly tortured innocent Muslims. Don't think so? You don't know human nature

I like this part. I'm currently doing some testing on some people(over the net of-course, not some lab). It's amazing how you can turn people into feces with some emoticons  

Trump is great tbh, just really, really stupid sometimes.  

Posted by GOAT

Afghanistan proves his point. Technically they could if they didn't care about extinguishing every person in Afghanistan. It's hard to kill them when they can easily blend in with the civilians.

So then I'm correct, as you just stated. We can do it, but like Thallen said we have to abide by a set of rules, so instead we won't do it. I never argued against the second part.  

Posted by GOAT

It's not only important to know what they're doing, but also why. You can't find the solution if you don't know what the problem is.

Typing that is literally trying to justify it. You're essentially saying, "But you don't know why they're shooting innocent American civilians."

I do know why... because the Quran specifically instructs them to kill non-believers, and ISIS are probably the most devout of all Muslims. Religion in general is a cancer to the world, but the turmoil in the Middle East is a testament to what Islam has achieved. Nothing, other than senseless violence and justification for primitive laws against women.

"There have been Christian terrorists as well!" Horrible argument. If I were to put some hick and a man in a turban beside each other and asked anyone on the planet who is more likely to be the one to bomb or shoot up innocent people, don't even try to pretend like you don't know which one would be pointed at. That's not an issue of racism or hatred either, that's called reality. One bad apple doesn't spoil the whole tree, but too many bad apples and it's time to dig it up by the roots.

If Islam is so good, like Muslim-Americans keep insisting, then the rest of the Middle East should be the ones fighting ISIS and reclaiming the reputation of their religion.  

Posted by Thallen

Typing that is literally trying to justify it. You're essentially saying, "But you don't know why they're shooting innocent American civilians."

I do know why... because the Quran specifically instructs them to kill non-believers, and ISIS are probably the most devout of all Muslims. Religion in general is a cancer to the world, but the turmoil in the Middle East is a testament to what Islam has achieved. Nothing, other than senseless violence and justification for primitive laws against women.

This all entirely untrue, and propaganda; also, the Old Testament & other belief systems orchestrate others to kill non-believers—and this believe you are taking out of context is being up-played by the media & others to rally specifically more hatred against the middle east. If you're going to open your mouth about people's spirituality & pretend to be an expert, at least walk the path of enlightenment first and study every religion, read the Quran and the Bible, as well as the Bhagavad Gita. You really have no idea what you are talking about; and calling religion a cancer, then why are you not on here criticizing Israel? Because your media refuses to ever suggest such an idea? Everyone around you is indoctrinated? Oh, yes—it's much easier to go with the flow on hatred than to actually resist, keep an open mind, and figure things out.

Posted by Thallen

"There have been Christian terrorists as well!" Horrible argument. If I were to put some hick and a man in a turban beside each other and asked anyone on the planet who is more likely to be the one to bomb or shoot up innocent people, don't even try to pretend like you don't know which one would be pointed at. That's not an issue of racism or hatred either, that's called reality. One bad apple doesn't spoil the whole tree, but too many bad apples and it's time to dig it up by the roots.

Wow. Okay, this is specifically hate speech. Put a black & a white man in front of wealthy white America, and ask them who is more likely to kill. Oh, yes, let's all now begin targeting blacks. You know nothing about Islam, and your words really gave me one of the grossest vibes I have ever felt.  

Posted by Thallen

Typing that is literally trying to justify it. You're essentially saying, "But you don't know why they're shooting innocent American civilians."

I do know why... because the Quran specifically instructs them to kill non-believers, and ISIS are probably the most devout of all Muslims. Religion in general is a cancer to the world, but the turmoil in the Middle East is a testament to what Islam has achieved. Nothing, other than senseless violence and justification for primitive laws against women.

"There have been Christian terrorists as well!" Horrible argument. If I were to put some hick and a man in a turban beside each other and asked anyone on the planet who is more likely to be the one to bomb or shoot up innocent people, don't even try to pretend like you don't know which one would be pointed at. That's not an issue of racism or hatred either, that's called reality. One bad apple doesn't spoil the whole tree, but too many bad apples and it's time to dig it up by the roots.

If Islam is so good, like Muslim-Americans keep insisting, then the rest of the Middle East should be the ones fighting ISIS and reclaiming the reputation of their religion.

I believe people like you are "a cancer to the world" and pretty sure you underlined that point yourself more than once already, tyvm.  

Posted by Fulgore

So then I'm correct, as you just stated. We can do it, but like Thallen said we have to abide by a set of rules, so instead we won't do it. I never argued against the second part.

Technically you're correct. But when applied to reality you're wrong. There's other reasons why they're not going to do that besides killing innocent people. Doing such a thing will definitely have consequences that are not worth it to the US government. But that's another argument in itself.

Posted by Thallen

Typing that is literally trying to justify it. You're essentially saying, "But you don't know why they're shooting innocent American civilians."

I'm not actually arguing ISIS vs US let alone trying to justify them. I was pointing out what I felt needed clarification from your post. You said that the US should do all this to show their might that would also prevent billions being wasted. I said that the US was part of the reason why ISIS was able to become what they are today.

Posted by Thallen

I do know why... because the Quran specifically instructs them to kill non-believers, and ISIS are probably the most devout of all Muslims.

Maybe some people are desperate. Maybe they don't want to go to Australia to be a burden and disturb OG's 1st world way of life. Maybe they're stuck in a bad situation because the citizens of other countries don't want their government to spend money. What is the worse you would do if your son/daughter was sick and starving(Hard to answer when you don't have kids yet, but look back on it when you do)? You have no problem wiping out the middle east, so I can only imagine what you would do for a daughter/son.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/isis-d...180356055.html

Posted by Thallen

"There have been Christian terrorists as well!" Horrible argument. If I were to put some hick and a man in a turban beside each other and asked anyone on the planet who is more likely to be the one to bomb or shoot up innocent people, don't even try to pretend like you don't know which one would be pointed at.

I don't know about the rest of the world, but if you were to ask me that question I would answer it like this:
I will pick the hick as the guy that would shoot up innocent people (happen many times here)
I will pick a world power as the one to bomb
My pick for the turban guy would be for suicide bomber
(why? because that's how our brains work until we learn how to think. Anybody is capable of doing anything if pushed hard enough)

Posted by Thallen

That's not an issue of racism or hatred either, that's called reality. One bad apple doesn't spoil the whole tree, but too many bad apples and it's time to dig it up by the roots.

Stereotyping is not reality. Should we kill every white male in America to stop mass shootings? That's right boys, white people going crazy up in this beeash. Should poor white people adopt African-American kids because they will make it to the NBA or the NFL?

Posted by Thallen

If Islam is so good, like Muslim-Americans keep insisting, then the rest of the Middle East should be the ones fighting ISIS and reclaiming the reputation of their religion.

They're going to reclaim their reputation by creating more death?

Posted by Conquest

Everyone around you is indoctrinated? Oh, yes—it's much easier to go with the flow on hatred than to actually resist, keep an open mind, and figure things out.

Man I've been trying to get people to do that since I started posting on this forum, but nah I'm just a troll. Thinking is such a beautiful thing when done correctly.  

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/11-overflow/20151121_mm.jpg (Unsupported image host)  

Posted by Basi

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/11-overflow/20151121_mm.jpg (Unsupported image host)

0 because the bowl is poisoned and my body cannot afford 10,000 MMs  

Posted by Basi

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/11-overflow/20151121_mm.jpg (Unsupported image host)

Duh I would eat the 10 poisoned ones. Sacrificing a ****** to save 9,999 people is not the first time it happens in human history.

As hard it is for most of you to believe, I'm not a Colin/******, but even the swag/cool rep needs to take a hit sometimes in order to deliver the joke  

Posted by Conquest

Wow. Okay, this is specifically hate speech.

You're in complete denial if you refuse to allow your brain to accept statistical facts... I don't know what to tell you. If "X is statistically more likely to commit Y crime than Z" is hate speech to you, you're way too sensitive.

Do you think it's hateful to make statements that can be proven through data? Like, "blacks are more likely to commit violent crimes against blacks" or "whites are more likely to commit financial crimes?" I can't imagine how reality is so triggering... It's a simple fact that Muslims are more likely than any other religion to kill innocent people.

Posted by Basi

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/11-overflow/20151121_mm.jpg (Unsupported image host)

Very good analogy, even down to the fact that Americans are fat and so sensitive to the idea of temporarily putting a pause on Syrian immigrants!  

Posted by Thallen

You're in complete denial if you refuse to allow your brain to accept statistical facts... I don't know what to tell you. If "X is statistically more likely to commit Y crime than Z" is hate speech to you, you're way too sensitive.

Do you think it's hateful to make statements that can be proven through data? Like, "blacks are more likely to commit violent crimes against blacks" or "whites are more likely to commit financial crimes?" I can't imagine how reality is so triggering... It's a simple fact that Muslims are more likely than any other religion to kill innocent people.

Uh, no. You are believing a lie you've been told, heard over and over by government media, and perpetuated by a subservient public. Muslims are not more likely to kill innocent people, and I have no interest in arguing with you anymore about this right now.  

Well, explain to me where you get your sources from. You read everything in the news, on the internet, etc. You don't experience all of this. Using the "you're brainwashed by the media" card at every turn really makes no sense. Literally everything other than real-world experience is a form of media.

I don't even have to Google sources on this, because I think it's pretty clear that the Middle East is in shambles due Sharia law and problems caused by Islam in general, but I think the simple fact that a Wikipedia article about Islam is result #2 on Google for the term "violence by religion" says a lot:


And scrolling down even further:


I'm not even looking for information about Islam... I'm searching for statistics about religious violence, yet every single result mentions Islam? So, either everyone on the planet is brainwashed except for you and other sympathizers, or Islam is extremely violent.

Cue theory that Google is a pro-Christian corporation that hides the true statistics of religious violence deep under these articles about violence in Islam?  

Google & Facebook are owned by American/Israeli conglomerates, and the Internet search results are commonly sorted both by popularity, but also government intervention of course (i.e. mainstream media influenced sheep). I am unsure why you think that posing Google as God to me, or American/Judeo-Israeli government media & all of their cronies has anything to do with reality. I see things from a global perspective