Posted by 5hift

Modern revolution evolved into castrating innocent people for attention?

Boy, we sure have come a long way.

Check my previous post and add media etc to it and there we go.  

Posted by PumaD

Napolean, HitIer, Stalin and who not done all the same stuff. The only differences is the time being, and the weaponry of course. But then again, if people had those "chances" before they would use them aswell, no?
Hence the comparison is p. interesting, yet may sound disrespectful to some people..

*Napoleon lol.

I don't know why people preach about protecting freedom of speech then have no concept of questioning topics in open speech. They speak about ISIS and politics everywhere as if they are doing a national speech and have to cater to opinions. The American nation was founded on revolution, treason, slavery, child labor, sexism, theft, homophobia, child killing, torture, and more. We burned people at stakes. I don't agree with stuff, but for people to gladly preach an innocent country and patriotism while attacking another revolution doesn't add up. Anyone who takes offense is looking for it. We are posting in some ragtag thread in the off topic version of the generic Graal forums. Whoopty-doo; NOBODY QUESTION ANYTHING, by all means. Very serious stuff lol  

Posted by Thallen

We'll be investing another 10 years of ground troops towards stabilizing a region that is not able to be stabilized. "But you took their oil," we should be taking their oil. We should be taking the resources we need to take to pay off the debt that they're putting us in when we're fighting their war. Oil is the biggest profit niche for ISIS, so you tell me who you'd rather see the oil of Iraq and Syria in the hands of?

We don't even take that much oil from them. Most of our oil comes from the US or is imported from Canada. Maybe back in 2008 we were getting around 10% from Saudi Arabia, but that's totally irrelevant today.  

Who's forcing America to fight the war for Middle East...no one.They can do it themselves.Why intervene...OH yes! because you want to. You want a part in the oil because that's the most profitable business in the world right now. But,when the Middle East didn't want to share their oil..."Let's do the 9/11 and Osama Bin Laden **** so we can get a reason to take it for us." Oh mind me,America entered Iraq a long time ago.

Face it, the current world power can't take on a bunch of terrorist militants who have no professional training whatsoever...But they seem trained to me, i mean not everyone can pick up a fight with America and survive like this. Because you people spawned Taliban/AL Quaeda and trained them to fight Russia. After it ended,you wanted to take their land too and now all of this is happening.  

Posted by MBK

Who's forcing America to fight the war for Middle East...

That's easy for you to say, because you're probably not living in the First World or in a superpower like the US, UK, Russia, etc. If a country like us doesn't intervene, the vacuum created by terrorist groups in these regions becomes so big that they probably have the capability to overthrow local governments, and then what do we eventually have on our hands? A bunch of idiots armed with nuclear and/or chemical weapons that they're willing to fire off for their 72 ******s? No thanks, pal.

I'd love to stop interfering in "polite" ways though, because we're getting **** on for it. We get criticized if we don't intervene, and we get taken advantage of if we do. We need to stop sending in ground troops and start flying over with B-52s. Innocent people will die, but that's part of war and sending a message that we can't be threatened or toyed with.

Posted by MBK

Face it, the current world power can't take on a bunch of terrorist militants who have no professional training whatsoever...

Is that a joke? Like I said before, the US has to play by a particular set of rules that these scumbags don't. A few radical Islamists shooting AR15s at innocent people in California is nothing compared to the complete destruction that we could do to ISIL. If a Republican wins the election, especially Trump or Cruz (which I'm sure they won't), then it's not going to be pretty for that region of the world.  

Posted by Thallen

Elaborate, because if you're referring to his suggestion that we temporarily pause the admission of Muslim immigrants to this country, then that isn't hate... We're in a war that is being forced upon us by radical Islam. Our Constitution doesn't apply to terrorists. We don't have to let terrorists, or anyone who might be a terrorist, into this country if we feel like that's the necessary safety precaution.

This isn't new, we did this in WW2 and it was a lot harsher. Not only did we not let them in this country, we took 100,000 people living in America with Japanese ancestry and we completely relocated or incarcerated them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern...nese_Americans

You won't win the war against terrorism by flinching and tiptoeing around every policy at the off chance that you might offend a Muslim...

When he came out he started going off on illegal immigrants (Mexicans) and how they were the problem. He made it ok to be hateful towards the illegal immigrants that were ruining this country. San Bernardino (happens to be 30 minutes away from me) shootings occur and now it's the Muslims' turn to get the hate.

I don't know the statistics, but targeting a religion with X amount of members because 1% of them are lunny doesn't sound logical. I don't know how easy it is for others to enter the US legally, but it's almost impossible for Mexican and anybody south of them(not counting rich people)

The US already does a good job at screening applicants.

Now lets talk about the refugees. We can do the moral thing and help people that are fleeing their war torn countries or let them fend for themselves.

Posted by Thallen

Saudi Arabia is one of the wealthiest countries in the world, they're in Yemen. Qatar is spending billions on the World Cup, ISIS is at their doorstep. They don't care, because they know that once this issue reaches its boiling point the US will send in its military and the US taxpayers will come out of their pockets to fight someone else's war.

We'll be investing another 10 years of ground troops towards stabilizing a region that is not able to be stabilized. "But you took their oil," we should be taking their oil. We should be taking the resources we need to take to pay off the debt that they're putting us in when we're fighting their war. Oil is the biggest profit niche for ISIS, so you tell me who you'd rather see the oil of Iraq and Syria in the hands of?

I see what you're saying, but wasn't the US one of the contributors to the current problem? Wasn't Iraq somewhat stabilized when Hussein was in power?

Spoiler

Posted by MBK

Who's forcing America to fight the war for Middle East...no one.They can do it themselves.Why intervene...OH yes! because you want to. You want a part in the oil because that's the most profitable business in the world right now. But,when the Middle East didn't want to share their oil..."Let's do the 9/11 and Osama Bin Laden **** so we can get a reason to take it for us." Oh mind me,America entered Iraq a long time ago.

Face it, the current world power can't take on a bunch of terrorist militants who have no professional training whatsoever...But they seem trained to me, i mean not everyone can pick up a fight with America and survive like this. Because you people spawned Taliban/AL Quaeda and trained them to fight Russia. After it ended,you wanted to take their land too and now all of this is happening.

Beside the oil I would say they prefer a more westernized version of the middle east. That would make it easier to control and manipulate. Imagine the US controlling the middle east? cashinggggg  

Posted by Thallen

That's easy for you to say, because you're probably not living in the First World or in a superpower like the US, UK, Russia, etc. If a country like us doesn't intervene, the vacuum created by terrorist groups in these regions becomes so big that they probably have the capability to overthrow local governments, and then what do we have on our hands? A bunch of idiots armed with nuclear and/or chemical weapons that they're willing to fire off for their 72 ******s? No thanks, pal.

I'd love to stop interfering in "polite" ways though, because we're getting **** on for it. We get criticized if we don't intervene, and we get taken advantage of if we do. We need to stop sending in ground troops and start flying over with B-52s.


Is that a joke? Like I said before, the US has to play by a particular set of rules that these scumbags don't. A few radical Islamists shooting AR15s at innocent people in California is nothing compared to the complete destruction we could do to that entire region. We don't though, because we aren't a primitive people who use religion to justify our immoral behavior.

70% of my spent life was in Dubai.I had to move to Pakistan for studies and some other reasons.Anyways,if you think Saudia isn't doing anything to fend off these militant groups then you are wrong.They just don't go to the podium and boast it to the whole world that they are also taking steps to fight these kind of extremist groups.You Americans act like you people are the only one under attack.16th December,2014...200+ school students were brutally killed by the hands of these extremist groups so calling them islamic groups is so wrong.

You people are already using your planes and whatnot to get your hands on whatever you want.You kill **** load of innocents everyday.It's just that they ain't white enough for Europe and America to notice.One of your apache or something was shot down in Pakistan as i remember.Stop blaming everything on Middle East.You people arn't the only nation affect from this.If you ever have any chance to come by South Asia,you will feel that you live in a heaven there in America.  

Posted by MBK

You people are already using your planes and whatnot to get your hands on whatever you want.You kill **** load of innocents everyday.It's just that they ain't white enough for Europe and America to notice.One of your apache or something was shot down in Pakistan as i remember.Stop blaming everything on Middle East.You people arn't the only nation affect from this.If you ever have any chance to come by South Asia,you will feel that you live in a heaven there in America.

It's a white world my man. Black girl goes missing and no one cares. White girl goes missing and Nancy Grace is demanding justice. National manhunt. 1k's gathered for search parties. How many people knew about the story below? Odds are that a very few.

http://www.collective-evolution.com/...ded-to-ignore/

and now listen to what Russell Peters says. He's a comedian but it's true.

 

The Obama Administration Stopped Processing Iraq Refugee Requests For 6 Months In 2011

http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/18/...onths-in-2011/  

Posted by twilit

This brightened my day

>college humor
>huh this actually might be really good
>can these guys stump the trump?
>same liberal circle jerk about Trump in a song
>goddammit.jpeg
>literally cannot stump the trump
 

Posted by MBK

Who's forcing America to fight the war for Middle East...no one.They can do it themselves.Why intervene...OH yes! because you want to. You want a part in the oil because that's the most profitable business in the world right now. But,when the Middle East didn't want to share their oil..."Let's do the 9/11 and Osama Bin Laden **** so we can get a reason to take it for us." Oh mind me,America entered Iraq a long time ago.

Face it, the current world power can't take on a bunch of terrorist militants who have no professional training whatsoever...But they seem trained to me, i mean not everyone can pick up a fight with America and survive like this. Because you people spawned Taliban/AL Quaeda and trained them to fight Russia. After it ended,you wanted to take their land too and now all of this is happening.

That's exactly what happened, and from my experience many people tend to be enthusiastic about this obsession to the point where if you disagree with the war machine & money, and see more creative approaches & critical analysis—you are viewed as a troll & no longer lovable to mainstream society.  

Posted by MBK

Face it, the current world power can't take on a bunch of terrorist militants who have no professional training whatsoever...

If you believe this you need a drastic wake-up call.  

Honestly if something isn't done about ISIS right now the world will ****ing regret it, IMO trump is the kind of person who will say enough is enough.

His intentions aren't bad at all US media is just so cancerous and extremely one sided, they all love to mark him as some evil ****ing bastard when all he wants to do is solve this problem.

As I've said before, I'm Australian and all these syrian, iraq and other middle eastern migrants flock to our country. They illegally board planes head to Malaysia (where its perfectly safe for them) and then proceed to illegally board a boat and head to Australia.

I'm sick and tired of our government being scared of any sort of criticism, they let these people in and let them live off of tax payers money, they give these people houses, apartments and payed flats. These people never have to work a single day in their life again and its bull****, there are struggling families our there who can't put food on the table for their children and its a disgrace.  

Anyone in this thread trying to justify ISIS' behavior should join ISIS and reolocate to the caliphate so the powerhouse militaries of the world may eventually have the pleasure of leaving the remnants of your brains splattered on the wall of whatever foxhole you'll be hiding in  

Sorry but I value my relationship with God, and while I don't justify ISIS' behavior, I call bull**** on this idea that killing thousands of innocents in NY to blackmail Islam and bombing Baghdad and killing thousands of innocents, then dragging a war out for 15 years puts you in any place to be telling people you know what justice is. Also, government approved media isn't a source of justice; in fact, thousands of American and Israeli soldiers have secretly tortured innocent Muslims. Don't think so? You don't know human nature