Posted by Conquest

I know loss, scorn, theft, rape, defilement, scapegoating, condemnation, and injustice like few other; you don't know suffering sufficiently to understand war and rage, and most people are too privileged and safe to understand survival mode. The disgrace on their beliefs alone in the media is enough to poke a lion; add the war, and you've invoked a rag tag team of soldiers who will despise your concerts while men sit around eating snacks and wine doing nothing about their suffering except demonizing

It's not as simple as telling them to "get over it", either. You can't replace the details of their art, stories, homes, culture, loved ones, etc. that have been stolen for nothing but money. You can't take back the grief; there will be no appeal strong enough

That has no relevance to what I said.  

Posted by MrSimons

That has no relevance to what I said.

I told you. They have a valid vendetta, and torturing other countries until the world acknowledges their excruciating grief instead of debating about it for fun is a war tactic. I'm done educating you. I'm not getting paid  

Posted by MrSimons

That has no relevance to what I said.

Would probably be better off just not replying anymore

Posted by Conquest

torturing other countries

You realize most of the victims are from their country and share the same religion? What did those people do?? Nothing, this is blatant terrorism and nothing more. They have made it clear the U.S isn't their only target, they want to kill everybody and conquer everyone who refuses to join them, these people feel no grief they feel nothing.

You know why we accept refugees? Because those are the people that desperately want help and we are giving them it, you are defending the wrong group of people.

They do this out of religion, which is why their mission statement is "Allahu Akbar" which translates to "God is Greater", not "We Are Grieving Please Help Us".  

Posted by Conquest

I told you. They have a valid vendetta, and torturing other countries until the world acknowledges their excruciating grief instead of debating about it for fun is a war tactic. I'm done educating you. I'm not getting paid

I get what you're saying now that you explained it. But no one is going to acknowledge their grief, the general public is just gonna hate the "terrorists" and support the government bombing the crap out of them. And when it comes down to it, when the US populous supports military action, the military is gonna get **** done.  

Posted by GOAT

My only issue with the Donald is that he's making alright to hate.

Elaborate, because if you're referring to his suggestion that we temporarily pause the admission of Muslim immigrants to this country, then that isn't hate... We're in a war that is being forced upon us by radical Islam. Our Constitution doesn't apply to terrorists. We don't have to let terrorists, or anyone who might be a terrorist, into this country if we feel like that's the necessary safety precaution.

This isn't new, we did this in WW2 and it was a lot harsher. Not only did we not let them in this country, we took 100,000 people living in America with Japanese ancestry and we completely relocated or incarcerated them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern...nese_Americans

You won't win the war against terrorism by flinching and tiptoeing around every policy at the off chance that you might offend a Muslim...  

About the whole Trump thing, a lot of news sources are using him as bait to get more viewers and often exaggerate what he says. I've seen so many headlines about him insulting Muslims/Women/Mexicans and immigrants in general and that's probably where his negative reputation comes from.

I think these refugees and immigrants should be coming to Canada over America, we have a lot more room for them and don't care as much as Americans since we haven't been affected by terrorism as much as you guys, that's probably what will happen if he does get elected in and stops immigration.  

http://imgur.com/l7sGYhx

IMG no work  

Posted by Colin

You realize most of the victims are from their country and share the same religion? What did those people do?? Nothing, this is blatant terrorism and nothing more. They have made it clear the U.S isn't their only target, they want to kill everybody and conquer everyone who refuses to join them, these people feel no grief they feel nothing.

Yea and if you resist the draft in your country, you go to jail; in early times "you're for us or against us". Same principal. They stand for Islam and justice, and many of them mean well I'm sure. Of course American/Israeli media will do nothing to harm our image or make their target appear innocent or understood in anyway. I don't see what's different from this war and the early Spanish/British theft of the west or other wars. Your government approved media will always make their enemy appear unfathomably unacceptable and inhumane, cruel and unusual, suspect, untrustworthy, dangerous, and crazy. Duh. But think about it  

Would really love to link countless videos of ISIS brutally executing children, civilians, and dumping hundreds of bodies into pits for justice but it's not forum-appropriate. I'm not going to sit here and debate with someone who thinks what they do is justified so not going to post anymore (unless directed towards someone else).

Also before you say it, these videos are uploaded by ISIS not our media.  

I didn't say all they do is justified, and you don't have to talk to me. You chimed in. I'm simply saying there's a more comprehensive way of looking at things, and frankly they use torture because of how powerless they are. If we were a very poor nation and another country started blackmailing us, we'd band up and use torture to scare them away too. Those who didn't protect the nation would be considered treasonous. Now since you cannot have a discussion without trying to speak for my opinions, it is best you move on. I am describing reality and their viewpoint and strategies, not giving you opinions  

Posted by GOAT

BTW the US government doesn't help just to help, if you look closely there's always a benefit from succeeding.

Saudi Arabia is one of the wealthiest countries in the world, they're in Yemen. Qatar is spending billions on the World Cup, ISIS is at their doorstep. They don't care, because they know that once this issue reaches its boiling point the US will send in its military and the US taxpayers will come out of their pockets to fight someone else's war.

We'll be investing another 10 years of ground troops towards stabilizing a region that is not able to be stabilized. "But you took their oil," we should be taking their oil. We should be taking the resources we need to take to pay off the debt that they're putting us in when we're fighting their war. Oil is the biggest profit niche for ISIS, so you tell me who you'd rather see the oil of Iraq and Syria in the hands of?  

Has anyone ever thought about ISIS not being some terror **** but an actually, modern-time revolution? Regardless the results, that thought sure is interesting.

/topicderail  

Posted by PumaD

Has anyone ever thought about ISIS not being some terror **** but an actually, modern-time revolution? Regardless the results, that thought sure is interesting.

/topicderail

Uh oh sounds like someone hates children, America, and everyone on here. jk  

Posted by Conquest

Uh oh sounds like someone hates children, America, and everyone on here. jk

Napolean, HitIer, Stalin and who not done all the same stuff. The only differences is the time being, and the weaponry of course. But then again, if people had those "chances" before they would use them aswell, no?
Hence the comparison is p. interesting, yet may sound disrespectful to some people..

*Napoleon lol.  

Posted by PumaD

Has anyone ever thought about ISIS not being some terror **** but an actually, modern-time revolution? Regardless the results, that thought sure is interesting.

/topicderail

Modern revolution evolved into castrating innocent people for attention?

Boy, we sure have come a long way.