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I think people make judgments about Trump's level of intelligence because he says things that aren't politically correct, but there's no correlation there. He's clearly an intelligent and accomplished guy.

In the past 8 years, America has taken on this burden of being babysitter for countries in the Middle East and I hate it. When problems occur over there, we don't have to intervene and waste billions of dollars trying to stabilize these regions, but we do it, we get **** on for it, and we fail. We seem to inhibit ourselves by playing by rules that the people who attack and steal from us don't.

I have no opinion on if we should have a temporary ban from Muslims entering the US, but it's just funny to me that people act like that's the most horrific thing they've ever heard. Really? We don't have the right to protect ourselves until we're assured we've got the right intelligence and understanding of the problem? People try to apply our Constitution to people who aren't even legal citizens of our country yet, I don't understand.

During the last debate, he got booed for suggesting we should find the terrorists and kill them and their families. We're following a thousand-page rulebook while the people killing and stealing from us don't even have one. I think we should do that, and I also agree with Cruz saying we should saturation bomb the entire region surrounding the caliphate.  

To be fair a lot of the current issues in the ME that we face in the West stem from the fact that the US decided to invade Iraq. No one asked Bush to do so and, if you recall, many protested against it (including Americans). You make a mess, you gotta clean it up right.  

Many Americans believe it's our job to babysit other countries due to the sales pitch they see on TV or from salesmen recruiters looking for a dime, because they've been indoctrinated into a media that tells them that the world is full of terrible places that need our acts of heroism. Then, men get paid good $$ to go over there, and believe they will retain bragging rights; however, they get over there only to have the reality set in that they are a pawn in a giant chess board run by business men—and the original agenda was not that these places needed us to save them. We are such a young country built on many atrocities, and our energy needs to be focused on transforming ourselves; instead, however, you are missing the point that capitalism isn't all about justice—it's about dog-eat-dog economics.

The blueprints for our country were ripe for foreign invasion; we are literally secretly overrun by wealthy international forces from all over the globe, no different than America has been busted hundreds of thousands of times for slave labor, child labor, & wage slave both here & in foreign trade.

Made in China.  

Australian here! Sick of our country sucking on the toes of other countries because our political parties are too scared of criticism to do anything about this global problem of terrorism and migration.

We legitimately let 10000 Syrians into the ****ing country without even processing them correctly "they'll find a job and work" no they ****ing won't, They live off of tax payer money and end up more well off then most families who are in financial trouble.

Its a ****ing disgrace.  

I'm really gonna hate voting in the next election. Would love to vote Republican but to me it seems like every candidate is at satirical levels of right wing politics. And currently it seems the only relevant democrats are Hillary and Sanders; Hillary is awful for a plethora of reasons, and all of the things Sanders is promising are impossible or impractical.

At this point I don't even care about voting for someone I agree with, I just want a candidate who has the slightest grasp of economics, or isn't an absolute asshat.

Posted by Thallen

I think people make judgments about Trump's level of intelligence because he says things that aren't politically correct, but there's no correlation there. He's clearly an intelligent and accomplished guy.

In the past 8 years, America has taken on this burden of being babysitter for countries in the Middle East and I hate it. When problems occur over there, we don't have to intervene and waste billions of dollars trying to stabilize these regions, but we do it, we get **** on for it, and we fail. We seem to inhibit ourselves by playing by rules that the people who attack and steal from us don't.

I have no opinion on if we should have a temporary ban from Muslims entering the US, but it's just funny to me that people act like that's the most horrific thing they've ever heard. Really? We don't have the right to protect ourselves until we're assured we've got the right intelligence and understanding of the problem? People try to apply our Constitution to people who aren't even legal citizens of our country yet, I don't understand.

I agree with this most of this post. I highly doubt Trump believes most of what he says, its just fear mongering and riling up old people so he can rake in votes from the only people that actually vote.  

Posted by MrSimons

I'm really gonna hate voting in the next election. Would love to vote Republican but to me it seems like every candidate is at satirical levels of right wing politics. And currently it seems the only relevant democrats are Hillary and Sanders; Hillary is awful for a plethora of reasons, and all of the things Sanders is promising are impossible or impractical.

At this point I don't even care about voting for someone I agree with, I just want a candidate who has the slightest grasp of economics, or isn't an absolute asshat.

Pretty much sums up how I feel about this election as well.

At this point, I'd settle for anyone who isn't going to get my country nuked.  

Posted by Crono

To be fair a lot of the current issues in the ME that we face in the West stem from the fact that the US decided to invade Iraq. No one asked Bush to do so and, if you recall, many protested against it (including Americans). You make a mess, you gotta clean it up right.

Ya but the middle east was already messed up **** hole before iraq.  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

Ya but the middle east was already messed up **** hole before iraq.

Yep.  

Posted by MrSimons

I agree with this most of this post. I highly doubt Trump believes most of what he says, its just fear mongering and riling up old people so he can rake in votes from the only people that actually vote.

Posted by Thallen

I think people make judgments about Trump's level of intelligence because he says things that aren't politically correct, but there's no correlation there. He's clearly an intelligent and accomplished guy.

In the past 8 years, America has taken on this burden of being babysitter for countries in the Middle East and I hate it. When problems occur over there, we don't have to intervene and waste billions of dollars trying to stabilize these regions, but we do it, we get **** on for it, and we fail. We seem to inhibit ourselves by playing by rules that the people who attack and steal from us don't.

I have no opinion on if we should have a temporary ban from Muslims entering the US, but it's just funny to me that people act like that's the most horrific thing they've ever heard. Really? We don't have the right to protect ourselves until we're assured we've got the right intelligence and understanding of the problem? People try to apply our Constitution to people who aren't even legal citizens of our country yet, I don't understand.

During the last debate, he got booed for suggesting we should find the terrorists and kill them and their families. We're following a thousand-page rulebook while the people killing and stealing from us don't even have one. I think we should do that, and I also agree with Cruz saying we should saturation bomb the entire region surrounding the caliphate.

Don't do it GOAT even though it's a good opening. I think you should do a serious reply.







All I have to say is "an for an eye until the whole world goes blind"


Can't believe I'm a compare this to my forum trolling, but here it goes.

Hypothetically speaking here, say I was a total ahole douchebag that went around insulting everyone and trolling everyone into arguments, would it make someone any different if they acted the same way under the excuse that I act that way? If I'm able to bring someone to my level then he's no different than me.

If our founding fathers thought the same way as "our enemies" then this wouldn't be the United States it would have been the Middle east with white skin people.



My only issue with the Donald is that he's making alright to hate. We been trying for over 200 years to get rid of hate and it only takes one campaign to set the movement back 50 years. I'm glad people want their country to be "great" again, but they should figure out what the real problem is in the first place. BTW the US government doesn't help just to help, if you look closely there's always a benefit from succeeding.




There might be bad people hiding as refugees, but there's also innocent people. In case someone missed this story. Sad stuff.
http://www.dailysabah.com/nation/201...on-of-refugees  

Posted by GOAT

My only issue with the Donald is that he's making alright to hate. We been trying for over 200 years to get rid of hate and it only takes one campaign to set the movement back 50 years.

Playing devils advocate here.. Social movements should never take precedence over national security. Not saying that discriminating against muslims in anyway protects the country more.

Posted by Conquest

What a convenient tale. The media claims most terrorists are Muslims, and when we attack them and they defend themselves with whatever means they have—we sensationalize it as more terrorism. This is erroneous.

Murdering civilians is not defensive. I'm not going to go for convincing you that the US Military is not terrorists; but mass killings of civilians hundreds of miles away that have no affiliation with your problems is not defending themselves. That is 100% terrorism.

People need to stop trying to justify murder. What the US is doing/has been doing is awful, but that doesn't make what terror groups are doing okay.

Posted by Wizaah

That is such a massive generalization. From 1990 to 2005, according to the FBI, 6% of terrorist attacks were from Islamic extremists. Whereas Jewish extremists were responsible for 7%. I am Jewish, so don't get me wrong, I am not trying to insult Jews, but honestly, stop listening to everything the Media says about Islam.

1. Source.

2. Does that percentage take into account casualties?

3. Does it take into account location/causation?

Can't just throw out percentages and say what others are saying is a generalization.  

We literally kicked the Pakistanis out by the 1950s, then bombed a bunch of innocent people. What you call "American military" is terrorism, and what you call terrorism is victims defending themselves from a foreign invasion.  

Posted by Conquest

We literally kicked the Pakistanis out by the 1950s, then bombed a bunch of innocent people. What you call "American military" is terrorism, and what you call terrorism is victims defending themselves from a foreign invasion.

Killing civilians isn't defense from foreign invasion. I'd love to know how attacks like the one on Paris have in anyway helped or protected the middle east.  

Posted by MrSimons

Killing civilians isn't defense from foreign invasion. I'd love to know how attacks like the one on Paris have in anyway helped or protected the middle east.

I know loss, scorn, theft, rape, defilement, scapegoating, condemnation, and injustice like few other; you don't know suffering sufficiently to understand war and rage, and most people are too privileged and safe to understand survival mode. The disgrace on their beliefs alone in the media is enough to poke a lion; add the war, and you've invoked a rag tag team of soldiers who will despise your concerts while men sit around eating snacks and wine doing nothing about their suffering except demonizing

It's not as simple as telling them to "get over it", either. You can't replace the details of their art, stories, homes, culture, loved ones, etc. that have been stolen for nothing but money. You can't take back the grief; there will be no appeal strong enough  

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