Posted by kilik

neo killed 0 people

Wut? Neo came at me enchanted out the ass and killed me in a single sword hit(that sent me flying 20 blocks away and off a cliff).  

i do not trust them, nor do i think they deserve to moderate the forum because they are hurting the forum events, the server is endorsed by graalians, and i have in the past called you all out on cheating, this happens all the time, in fact, fireen admitted he only joined the server to pvp and didnt care if he was banned.

i do not feel like its in graalians best interest to allow them to continue doing this or participate in the next games, because they just wont change, and they will simply keep trying till they can get away with it.

now explain to me, how inside the den, with me crouching, in part of the huge map, you were able to find me? how where you able to say "we are coming for higbey", then single me out and find me and know it was me?

you cheated, you hacked, and Rufus really shouldnt allow you to be a moderator when you make ruining events seem okay. you have a history, and this matches it, so you will pay the consequences, ive had this said to me many times before, its high time someone told it to you.  

Posted by Dusty

Wut? Neo came at me enchanted out the ass and killed me in a single sword hit(that sent me flying 20 blocks away and off a cliff).

he hit you with a knockback sword which was retreived in the cornucopia how does that prove aimbotting  

Posted by MattKan

Fireenn, you and the other people in your group (Kilik, Neo, Scaal, and Pavi) have a history of hacking on my servers and events. (The first and second hunger games, all the graalians servers I've had, graalians medieval, etc.) I usually have NoCheat installed and it always pops up with tons of errors when you guys log in. It's always the same errors for all of you at a constant rate which is extremely suspicious. I realize that NoCheat is sometimes faulty, but when it spits out errors at a constant rate it usually is not. The five of you been the only ones to get errors at all usually. You have to understand that this has always been suspicious. Plus, we've found evidence of you using X-Ray and stuff before. Quite honestly, your record is against you.

Tonight I was told by somebody that I trust who was in your Skype Call that you all remarked that you were using some hacking client I'd never heard of called AimBot. (To everybody else, AimBot basically lets you hit people automatically without looking in their direction.) This was hacking and was definitely unfair. I'm not going to rat out the person who told me, but they've always been very trustworthy before and they have absolutely no reason to lie. They even messaged me about it before they even died because they didn't want to be killed by you if you were cheating.They even said something before the game even started, so they couldn't have just been angry because they got killed. Your record and this witness are definitely against you on this, so honestly I am confident that you guys were hacking. It's unfortunate because you're a moderator on here and a staff on Classic which just sets a bad example for all the other players on the server.

I don't think it's fair for you to call me biased. I don't have anything against any of you... As I said before, why would I? You are six Graalians who could play my server. Why would I try to ruin that? I even asked you a few hours before it started if you could play and encouraged you to come. It wouldn't make since for me to intentionally try to cheat you guys when giving you the prize would probably just make you more active in future server events. The reason you think I've always been biased is because I've always questioned you guys when there's evidence against you. It's not bias; I just always see evidence and try to give you the benefit of the doubt before completely banning you.

Like I said, I do these events for the community to have fun. I feel like I can help this game out a little bit and that's basically what I try to do. I wanted there to be monetary incentives to try to get new and more players, and I think it worked. I'm not rich, though. I'm supposed to be spending $60 on this, and I don't want to waste it on people who are hacking and basically ruining the game for everybody else.

That all being said, I do want you guys on the server, so I hope that you stop using hacks and just play the game like the rest of us. The next Hunger Games will be on November 10 I think, and I hope to see you there.

Kilik already explained how we killed everyone, and I'm sure even the people that were killed have to admit that we didn't hack. Im sure if Cat, Imprint, or anyone who was killed by us thought we were hacking they would have made it public. I wouldn't judge all of this on 1 (probably jealous) player.

As for previous events, we never hacked before. The only event that you hosted that me and Fireenn won, was the hunger games were there was a bunch of diamonds on the surface. We won that fair and square. There wasn't even that many players for it.

I would like to see some legitimate proof. Don't assume anything because you don't trust us, or because a friend of yours doesn't want us to win. Not to mention Matt you were following us a lot of the time. Hacks are pretty easy to detect by eye (you can also check logs). I wish if you would have thought we were hacking you would have said something then so we could have took a screen shot, or anything to prove we were not.

I dont like causing drama. (and i know i am right now) But i hate that were being treated unfair right now.
We won fair and square, but apparently since we didn't drown, or fall to our deaths we were hacking.

were gonna play the next one, and win, and video tape it this time, because apparently we all cant be trusted.  

Posted by kilik

I respect you want the game clean and fair, but again, i killed one person with a sword so how could i have been using a hack to kill people with a sword?? On top of that you have no shred of proof that I legitimately used any hack at all.

pix killed 0 people

neo killed 0 people

fireenn killed me pavi and neo that was it

scaal killed 0 people

pavi killed 0 people.

so please, tell me more about how we all hacked and used aimbot with swords to kill everybody.

and please prove why you using your op abilitiess to spam lava and tnt around me was not cheating?

Even dusty said you were abusing lol a person who helped run the original graalians.

consider that a trusted source?

The six of you worked together to kill several people. I don't remember who exactly killed who, but a lot of it was you guys ambushing people. If you were all hacking, which it seems like you were, then you were all cheating. Towards the end, I used lava and TNT to trap people and sort of set the mood I guess. There were two times lava came two close to you to actually hurt you. The first time was when you fell off accidentally and landed in it. The second time was when I spawned some and realized it was a bit too close to you and even warped you a few blocks away because I realized it wasn't fair. Everybody had equal treatment once it came to that stage of the game.

I feel that the evidence I have against you guys is adequate. I don't have flat out proof. I also respect Dusty's opinion, but I don't think I ever went after him with TNT or Lava because he wasn't alive by that point in the game.  

Posted by kilik

he hit you with a knockback sword which was retreived in the cornucopia how does that prove aimbotting

When did I say it had anything to do with aimbotting. Pay attention to what I quoted. How did Neo have 0 kills when he killed me?

As for whether or not they were hacking I can't attest to because I have no way of saying. I climbed out of a hole, Neo was on a cliff a bit away, turned and saw me, shot me with an arrow(and I shot him back). After my first arrow he dodged the rest, then we closed in, he hit me with his knockback sword and I flew off the cliff and died. This all happened in a few seconds and that's all I can say I know of that happened.  

this is why we should have used the map we made, no unfair chests, no hiding, no enchanting, and only three diamonds in the map.  

Why don't you guys just get VanishNoPacket and monitor them if you really think they're cheating?  

Posted by Scaal

Kilik already explained how we killed everyone, and I'm sure even the people that were killed have to admit that we didn't hack. Im sure if Cat, Imprint, or anyone who was killed by us thought we were hacking they would have made it public. I wouldn't judge all of this on 1 (probably jealous) player.

As for previous events, we never hacked before. The only event that you hosted that me and Fireenn won, was the hunger games were there was a bunch of diamonds on the surface. We won that fair and square. There wasn't even that many players for it.

I would like to see some legitimate proof. Don't assume anything because you don't trust us, or because a friend of yours doesn't want us to win. Not to mention Matt you were following us a lot of the time. Hacks are pretty easy to detect by eye (you can also check logs). I wish if you would have thought we were hacking you would have said something then so we could have took a screen shot, or anything to prove we were not.

I dont like causing drama. (and i know i am right now) But i hate that were being treated unfair right now.
We won fair and square, but apparently since we didn't drown, or fall to our deaths we were hacking.

were gonna play the next one, and win, and video tape it this time, because apparently we all cant be trusted.

Again, the player could not have been jealous that you beat him because they realized what you were doing before the game even started. The people who were killed by you guys assumed that you were playing fairly and fell for it. I assumed so, too, until I started talking with the person more after the game. I don't just mean events, I mean all the servers I've had, too.

I warped to everybody in the arena almost systematically throughout the whole thing, just had /vanish off sometimes accidentally.  

Posted by MattKan

Again, the player could not have been jealous that you beat him because they realized what you were doing before the game even started. The people who were killed by you guys assumed that you were playing fairly and fell for it. I assumed so, too, until I started talking with the person more after the game. I don't just mean events, I mean all the servers I've had, too.

I warped to everybody in the arena almost systematically throughout the whole thing, just had /vanish off sometimes accidentally.

You never thought that someone could be scared of 6 players, and make something up so we wont win? If they said that right at the beginning i really wish you said someone so we could have proved to you, then and there we were not.

The games were fun, but Matt you can not host anything. It is obvious you don't like us, and I'm sure thats making it a lot easier to believe that we cheated (you can say all you want about our history and bla bla bla.). But seeing as only 1 person died to a sword (and they were cornered) its pretty ridiculous that you are blaming us for this.  

Posted by Dusty

When did I say it had anything to do with aimbotting. Pay attention to what I quoted. How did Neo have 0 kills when he killed me?

As for whether or not they were hacking I can't attest to because I have no way of saying. I climbed out of a hole, Neo was on a cliff a bit away, turned and saw me, shot me with an arrow(and I shot him back). After my first arrow he dodged the rest, then we closed in, he hit me with his knockback sword and I flew off the cliff and died. This all happened in a few seconds and that's all I can say I know of that happened.

i was documenting all of the sword kills we had, not kills caused by other means such as falling, fire, or tnt  

Posted by Scaal

were gonna play the next one, and win, and video tape it this time, because apparently we all cant be trusted.

There's just something about 6 people accused of hacking (with most of them already being staff members) teaming up and ganging up on the rest of the competitors, while also being arrogant, that just doesn't sit well with me. Lets face it your group of people doesn't have a good history of respect on the Graalians server.  

Posted by kilik

i was documenting all of the sword kills we had, not kills caused by other means such as falling, fire, or tnt

That's stupid. He hit me with his sword and I flew off the cliff and died. He killed me with his sword.  

can I get whitelisted?  

here is my stand on it.

the simple fact that the no pvp affected us being able to get the cornucopia without a challenge is means enough for me to be content with the prize being revoked. WE HAD FUN

aside from the lava hiccups and other minor mishaps it was a great event and i enjoyed it

HOWEVER.
there is no solid proof that any of us hacked, you are using hearsay from people. Regardless of being trustworthy, people make mistakes.

we have stated all of our kills and only one of them was a full on sword kill when it came to people outside of our little alliance (higbey which i killed)

using an aimbot requires a sword or being attacked with melee methods...

that on top of the fact that there was absolutely no solid proof just shows this accusation wasn't fair and it wasn't even needed

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