Hiring Check on Graal - 2

Alexmo · 10-31-2015

I feel they should lower the age limit I'm actually under 13

Thallen · 10-31-2015

Posted by Platinum

To everyone: Stop whining about 13 year olds being hired. Some are perfectly capable in what they do and sometimes are the best option to hired.

so hard for me to believe that
anyway, like I said, the fact that it's an immediate yes/no after a glance at account histories is probably what is preventing 90% of you from ever having a chance (which is stupid)

Ivy · 11-01-2015

Posted by Thallen

I don't care about an age requirement, but I'm sure many people who genuinely want to help the game are being prevented from doing so due to ridiculous circumstances noted in their account.

Every time you get your chat reset, status reset, nickname reset, warped for game disruption, etc. - all of that gets noted in your account, forever. It doesn't matter who did it, why, if it was deserved, etc. If you get banned randomly, send in a support ticket, and you're immediately banned, your account's history will still show that you were banned and unbanned (rather than just removing the incident entirely). All that does is allow build-up of some ridiculously long "history" that makes you look like you've always been punished appropriately.
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This is the case for me as well.

Eugeen · 11-01-2015

Posted by Clown

West has a management team that understands that a few bans/warnings are not entirely a bad thing - they actually believe in change of heart unlike others

I was actually talking about classic as I've been in their graphics team aswell but yeah olwest does exactly what you said

TD* · 11-01-2015

Hiring a GP is a hit or miss. The only information made available to the staff hiring is the application (which is often 90% BS) and the player's log.

Reality is a ban history is undesirable. Whether it's justified or not, you look less credible than the guy with a clear history, even more so when the job want requires you to act to a certain standard. There is more risk hiring you over the application that looks suspiciously perfect. It's your job to convince the employer that you've gone through a maturing phase in your application. How else would the person reading through your application know that?
Even if you meet the minimum standards, which are close to nothing, Classic doesn't owe you the position. You aren't special. When there are hundreds of applications for a couple of open spots, stuff like a bad history make it tougher to get in. If it turns out you were qualified, then it's their loss.

Getting hired is not about being the most qualified person, it's about convincing the employer that you are without lying.

Side note, never seen a single 13 year old GP in the years I've been working for Classic.

Aguzo · 11-01-2015

Do they allow you to join their team, if you haven't been banned for a certain period of time?

or

Is a ban from, let's say chat blocking, a very good reason to prevent someone from joining, even if it were 2-3 years ago?

I have no clue how strict their requirements are, I've never applied for GP, I think...
Saying this, because I think someone needs to moderate the competitive community.
The best staff, for GPs anyway, are the ones who know the rules, but don't know the players. (They would have no preference towards certain players, so they wouldn't have friends to give free passes to)

Rolense · 11-01-2015

The fact is some 10 to 17 age kids is much mature than any other older age.

Eugeen · 11-01-2015

Posted by Aguzo

Do they allow you to join their team, if you haven't been banned for a certain period of time?

or

Is a ban from, let's say chat blocking, a very good reason to prevent someone from joining, even if it were 2-3 years ago?

I have no clue how strict their requirements are, I've never applied for GP, I think...
Saying this, because I think someone needs to moderate the competitive community.
The best staff, for GPs anyway, are the ones who know the rules, but don't know the players. (They would have no preference towards certain players, so they wouldn't have friends to give free passes to)

I admitted everything I did wrong in the past in my application and got hired so yeah as long as you're honest and mature about it then you have a high potential between everyone else

PumaD · 11-01-2015

I wouldn't want to hear a 14 yrs old telling me what's appriopiate and what isn't at all..

Ivy · 11-01-2015

Posted by iBubble

I admitted everything I did wrong in the past in my application and got hired so yeah as long as you're honest and mature about it then you have a high potential between everyone else

I've done this in one of my my graphics apps in the past to classic and was not hired lol

Zetectic · 11-01-2015

platinum, i agree with teens busy with their lives & most 13 yr olds are innocent. They don't tend to lie, if they do it's obvious. i don't care if 13 yr old is an admin or not, cus it never affected me and i don't expect graal for an excellent customer service.
but i still want to say 13 year old aren't fully capable of handling jobs imo. They can be easily influenced, corrupted, make mistakes more than an adult and they also learn quicker than adults. nothing is really going to change.

Posted by TD*

Side note, never seen a single 13 year old GP in the years I've been working for Classic.

don't ****ing lie bro =.=;; im tellin' brenda bout dis.

Albie · 11-01-2015

True, most of being a gp is checking uploads. But they don't even know how to do that?
I know now to upload when good admins are online, because if you do it when they aren't they'll get rejected.
Ever got your bandanna head rejected? Probably by a younger admin taking their job too seriously.
I got banned from uploads for uploading a head based off an anime, again an admin taking their job too seriously. There are so many things based off copyright material in graal eg coco and dusty's Halloween costumes but at the end of the day, that's not breaking any rules. It's just inspiration.

I doubt those two would of been able to get those costumes if they were uploading when one of the super serious younger admins were online.

At the end of the day, no not all admins who are young suck - but most of them do.

Eugeen · 11-01-2015

Posted by Ivy

I've done this in one of my my graphics apps in the past to classic and was not hired lol

Didn't say you would be assured to get hired

Ivy · 11-01-2015

Posted by iBubble

Didn't say you would be assured to get hired

I just feel like it's unfair that lesser skilled people are getting hired and I'm not even given a chance because I had a bad history (although several times it winded up being the fault of the staff, and not me.)

sure, I may have been banned a few times. I've been playing for several years and have made some pretty stupid decisions.
But I've learned from my mistakes, and am not the same as I was when I was like 12. (Probably around the time i found the game).

Bryan* · 11-01-2015

Well time to take a 2-week vacation (got my 6th)

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Alexmo Banned Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: I live in a place on a place Posts: 1,464	I feel they should lower the age limit I'm actually under 13

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TD* Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 102	Hiring a GP is a hit or miss. The only information made available to the staff hiring is the application (which is often 90% BS) and the player's log. Reality is a ban history is undesirable. Whether it's justified or not, you look less credible than the guy with a clear history, even more so when the job want requires you to act to a certain standard. There is more risk hiring you over the application that looks suspiciously perfect. It's your job to convince the employer that you've gone through a maturing phase in your application. How else would the person reading through your application know that? Even if you meet the minimum standards, which are close to nothing, Classic doesn't owe you the position. You aren't special. When there are hundreds of applications for a couple of open spots, stuff like a bad history make it tougher to get in. If it turns out you were qualified, then it's their loss. Getting hired is not about being the most qualified person, it's about convincing the employer that you are without lying. Side note, never seen a single 13 year old GP in the years I've been working for Classic.

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Aguzo Registered User Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 3,027	Do they allow you to join their team, if you haven't been banned for a certain period of time? or Is a ban from, let's say chat blocking, a very good reason to prevent someone from joining, even if it were 2-3 years ago? I have no clue how strict their requirements are, I've never applied for GP, I think... Saying this, because I think someone needs to moderate the competitive community. The best staff, for GPs anyway, are the ones who know the rules, but don't know the players. (They would have no preference towards certain players, so they wouldn't have friends to give free passes to)

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Rolense Registered User Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 360	The fact is some 10 to 17 age kids is much mature than any other older age.

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PumaD donald trump'd Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,438	I wouldn't want to hear a 14 yrs old telling me what's appriopiate and what isn't at all..

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Albie Registered User Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Battle Arena Posts: 1,550	True, most of being a gp is checking uploads. But they don't even know how to do that? I know now to upload when good admins are online, because if you do it when they aren't they'll get rejected. Ever got your bandanna head rejected? Probably by a younger admin taking their job too seriously. I got banned from uploads for uploading a head based off an anime, again an admin taking their job too seriously. There are so many things based off copyright material in graal eg coco and dusty's Halloween costumes but at the end of the day, that's not breaking any rules. It's just inspiration. I doubt those two would of been able to get those costumes if they were uploading when one of the super serious younger admins were online. At the end of the day, no not all admins who are young suck - but most of them do.

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Bryan* Verified ✔️ Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: M.I.A Posts: 3,408	Well time to take a 2-week vacation (got my 6th)