Posted by Sig.

he doesn't make money with PW at all to be honest.

Self-fulfilling prophecy.

Nobody has made an effort with PlayerWorlds in 10 years, and the previous effort was the last in a series of blunders. It's never going to make money unless someone passionate about it is given control and the ability to make changes.

Stephane and Stefan struck gold with mobile Graal, but rather than re-paying the community that kept the game going long enough for this to happen, they have stabbed it in the back and left it for dead.  

Posted by Thor

Self-fulfilling prophecy.

Nobody has made an effort with PlayerWorlds in 10 years, and the previous effort was the last in a series of blunders. It's never going to make money unless someone passionate about it is given control and the ability to make changes.

Stephane and Stefan struck gold with mobile Graal, but rather than re-paying the community that kept the game going long enough for this to happen, they have stabbed it in the back and left it for dead.

There is no reason for him to invest money into it if a single gun on iEra made more money than Playerworlds. And thanks to the big iOS player base, he always gets developers aswell.  

Posted by Sig.

There is no reason for him to invest money into it if a single gun on iEra made more money than Playerworlds. And thanks to the big iOS player base, he always gets developers aswell.

barely getting any developers from the iCrowd bruh  

Posted by Crono

barely getting any developers from the iCrowd bruh

Meant anything but scripters with developers  

Posted by Sig.

Meant anything but scripters with developers

What has Unixmad done for you to be riding his ****?

Do you just want us to be wrong, or do you actually have faith in the conman?  

Posted by Sig.

There is no reason for him to invest money into it if a single gun on iEra made more money than Playerworlds.

What makes PC Graal a potential goldmine is server rentals. However Graal the game and Graal the development platform share a symbiotic relationship with eachother, therefore if one aspect isn't supported and doesn't thrive, nor shall the other aspect.

Nonetheless who's to say that PC servers couldn't increase their playercount by several orders of magnitude if for instance Graal were to launch on Steam?

Posted by Sig.

And thanks to the big iOS player base, he always gets developers aswell.

Most of the decent scripters on mobile Graal began on PC Graal, are they going to script on mobile Graal forever? Who is going to replace them if PC Graal continues to be locked in a basement dungeon a la Joseph Fritzl?  

Posted by Skyzer

What has Unixmad done for you to be riding his ****?

Do you just want us to be wrong, or do you actually have faith in the conman?

?? Unlike you, I am just trying not to hate. I have several reasons to hate on him aswell however I'm trying to look at it non-biased.

PW generates no money
PW has a small playerbase
PW is way too outdated (though they're responsible for this).

Would you focus on a business for only max. 300 players or for a business with atleast 4500?  

Posted by Thor

Nonetheless who's to say that PC servers couldn't increase their playercount by several orders of magnitude if for instance Graal were to launch on Steam?

I don't even want to think about how much Unixmad would have Graal cost on Steam.  

Posted by Skyzer

I don't even want to think about how much Unixmad would have Graal cost on Steam.

a whopping $30.  

Posted by MisterFace

a whopping $30.

A 12 month Gold subscription has cost as much as $50 depending on fluctuating currency conversion rates. In fact the price which is still listed on the Graal website currently works out at just above $40, even though the need for a subscription was removed in late 2013 and the game is practically abandoned by Graal management. The website is essentially asking $40 for a community name, and even one of those can be retrieved for free either by emailing Xor or via script exploit. A community name doesn't even allow you to register an account on the official Graal forums anymore either.

I bet if the website was updated to sell a community name explicitly for a nominal fee, it would make at least a tidy sum over the course of a year. "How do I make a name?" is a question I get asked a lot.  

Lmao, gotta love the name of this thread! The "future" of Graalonline.. as if it has one! Hahahaha!  

Posted by Sig.

?? Unlike you, I am just trying not to hate. I have several reasons to hate on him aswell however I'm trying to look at it non-biased.

PW generates no money
PW has a small playerbase
PW is way too outdated (though they're responsible for this).

You don't think he's at all responsible for your first two points?
If we made a flow chart to show how one of Graal's problems lead to others, I would say PW being outdated is a predecessor, therefore a cause of little to no revenue & a small playerbase.  

Graal died when Classic was forced into converting to GS2 ten years ago. A policy that wasn't enforced anywhere else and later abandoned. Blame Master Storm, and Stefan for removing a server and alienating hundreds of players.  

Posted by maximus_asinus

Graal died when Classic was forced into converting to GS2 ten years ago. A policy that wasn't enforced anywhere else and later abandoned. Blame Master Storm, and Stefan for removing a server and alienating hundreds of players.

yeah man graal died, not just classic right?  

Posted by Crono

yeah man graal died, not just classic right?

Obviously wasn't the sole reason, but a nail in the coffin. Classic was bringing in hundreds, if not (low) thousands of unique accounts per week and was the main draw for a game limping after P2P was introduced.