Posted by Colin

Ok Mr.2003 let's recap for you:

1. No one mentioned is Japanese.

2. No PC players are claiming they are at disadvantage or handicapped, they are saying PC has an advantage over iDevice but it is not big enough to warrant separate spar rooms.

3. Doesn't take 8h+ a day to be good at spar enough to be able to beat PC using mobile anyone good at spar can hold their ground against any device

4. The iDev room was barely used when it existed or people didn't queue to avoid sparring better iDev players, devices aren't what's holding people back from being good it's them selves.

5. If you have more years than all of us combined you probably won't get much better if you've had all this time and still have trouble sparring people, separate rooms won't help you.

1.It was a joke, good job. (Japanese people generally take **** serious)
2. A handicap is an advantage.. Have you ever played any sport ever?
3&5. Complete contradiction to use both statements in one argument.
4. The idev roon easily had just as many people in the main room until the day it died. Youre on pc, so almost sure you have no clue what youre saying lol.

How bout a real #1. This could help bring back a dead community on a once hella fun game. Change brings attraction, even if its to undo a fail on staff part years ago,  

Mate no one is saying PC players are disadvantaged OR handicapped, PC players aren't handicapped at all and no one said they were like you are claiming

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Posted by Colin

Mate no one is saying PC players are disadvantaged OR handicapped, PC players aren't handicapped at all and no one said they were like you are claiming

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Let me help you out.. cuz you clearly dont get it.

Definition:
Handicap- a race or other contest in which certain disadvantages or advantages of weight, distance, time, etc., are placed upon competitors to equalize their chances of winning.

Notice how it says disadvantages OR advantages. Pc handicap being strafe, screen size, how well device is held, ammount of space for fingers, screen obstructions (fingers), its a list tbh. Idevice gets nothing to weigh out all those factors so we should be able to face eachother if wed like. BY CHOICE  

It's not the removal of seperate rooms but people with a weak ass mindset (just like you) inside this competitive environment, that´s slowly killing the sparring community.
The point where people don't want competition anymore is when a competitive community dies.

People like Sarah, love her or hate her, are what keeps such communities alive actually. Polarizing people who spark competition and push the meta forward.

There´s also a lot more factors, like the servers getting ****tier or the iDev freeze as well.
Simply adding back seperate sparring rooms wouldn't have much of an impact, there´s much more grave things at fault here that need to be addressed first, in order to "revive" the sparring community.

Grow up and adapt, things change and so did the sparring community  

Posted by Void

Grow up and adapt, things change and so did the sparring community

Ya only problem being im one of those few people who have been actively sparring in arena for years on end. Where you at?

And youre right things did change, back to what the spar comm looked like at the death of UN in 2009, empty af. Pretty sure going backwards and adapting are opposing things.  

You're attributing spar being dead to the wrong thing here. Spar is dead because rn it's pointless to spar until GST is near. People didn't leave because the idev room was removed, they left because they realized sparring was pointless. What will change this is the NGS, not the idev room.  

Why are so many people pro-oppression lol. This is about freedom of choice on one of the most active mmorpg for device. Every option should be available. As it is for your character, your name, your teams, etc.. The whole game supposed to be about freedom AND competition. Ill play flappy bird if i want them to choose everything for me.  

The lack of an idev room does not mean you're oppressed....christ what is wrong with people  

I dont even enter gst anymore btw. So in yalls opinions.. What could help uplift the spar community? You guys have plenty to argue about so how bout something constructive?  

Posted by Ashur

I dont even enter gst anymore btw. So in yalls opinions.. What could help uplift the spar community? You guys have plenty to argue about so how bout something constructive?

The NGS
Monthly tournaments (singles / ttutc-esque) to keep interest here

That's about it for the moment, only things that make spar worthwhile  

Posted by Ashur

Ya only problem being im one of those few people who have been actively sparring in arena for years on end. Where you at?

Shouldn't be dropping lines like this when you are only 7.9k-5.5k

and you can't compare two different activities (art, PE) to sparring which is ONE activity and the SAME regardless of what device you use  

My bad colin, like i said not everyone can play all 10 hours a day. Takes me 4+ Hours to get 100 so frfr my bad im not fast enough for ya.

Posted by Fulgore

The NGS
Monthly tournaments (singles / ttutc-esque) to keep interest here

That's about it for the moment, only things that make spar worthwhile

Wheres info on this? I heard fp4 tossin around hints but does this have any effect on single sparrig at all?  

Posted by Ashur

My bad colin, like i said not everyone can play all 10 hours a day. Takes me 4+ Hours to get 100 so frfr my bad im not fast enough for ya.



Wheres info on this? I heard fp4 tossin around hints but does this have any effect on single sparrig at all?

it will, yes. The magnitude is what's uncertain but it will affect it.  

So because you can't invest time to get good at something (which all competitive activities require) it should be made easier? (even though an iDevice room wouldn't make it much easier)  

Posted by Thallen

same lol it's as petty as being like "we need 2 separate ladders for 1-50 ping players and 51-100 ping players in league of legends"

I don't understand how is this related to the ping in league of legends? lol. It's pretty much like the MMR, silvers together, bronze together, gold together etc... The pc advantage over idev is like a skill difference between players. Sarah is the only player who don't do as bad against pc players for obvious reasons. Can't think of any other idev player who don't get rekt against a good pc sparer. I switched from idev to pc and the advantage was pretty obvious