New tower - 18

twilit · 06-03-2017

I like the ice idea (*cough* still really want speed skating to come back), but one of the downfalls of a mobile flag is pretty much always gets stuck in a corner (bottom-right 90% of the time).

Rekkles · 06-03-2017

To much space, no flag room, annoying 1 hit take and hows it a box fort??

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Paddie · 06-04-2017

I like the ice idea too lol! Anybody wants to know why I'm not on the box fort anymore? Frankly I want to do so many things with that. I really can't understand what dusty is doing, I think he's average crazy and his mind is so close to many things, right? I started sparring about a month ago because Box Fort is terrible and you know someone keep banning me for 4K hours. Don't give him any ideas because it's his job! I won't think for him, sorry! I just liked the ice idea and that aquatic ecosystem lol.

Saeed · 06-04-2017

Posted by Paddie

Don't give him any ideas because it's his job!l.

We're not giving him ideas, he is the one coming up with those ideas, he is the one who scripted and introduced those new mechanics to the towers. That's his job as a developer. As players, we gave him feedback and things he can work on. Because he is not a player who has towering experience, it's normal for us to give him feedback based on our experience. In every game you find a way to give feedback to developers because players are the ones who are playing the game.

Estrella* · 06-04-2017

This has been here for over a month...

ZedFox · 06-04-2017

Posted by Rekkles

and hows it a box fort??

It's a cardboard box with a flag on it.

McCullough · 06-04-2017

Here are my thoughts on the Ice Tower at Box Fort™

I absolutely love this design. The mayhem, the death,the freezing, the explosions!

Everyone and anyone may acquire an advantage in this kind of design, and I especially love the ice blocks and TNT ice blocks that can be used to completely rek hordes of attackers if given the opportunity.

It's a very big fighting space, I like it. It would be unwise to spam, as there are a lot of flanking opportunities, as well as chances to freeze or explode your enemies. Nobody ever stops moving, and it makes it even more exciting to tower in.

My only major issue is the flag, it usually always gets stuck in a corner and is very difficult to freeze due to the masses of players pking and trying to hit the flag. Like others have mentioned, it's probably a better idea to change the shape of the whole room, most have suggested circular. This way, the flag will never stop moving and players will need to create some sort of barricade to stop it, making it easier to hit the flag.

The idea of using a shovel to create snow that will act as a barricade could be cool, as it would open up more defensive opportunities. Of course the snow should melt down and should be easily destroyed by swords/bombs/lanterns, etc.

The idea of sliding around on the ice would give the tower another unique aspect. Sliding around while having to fight enemies could pose a challenge for everyone, and would require players to get used to it. The problem with this is that it would probably make it more difficult to hit the ice blocks into other players, or even the flag, but I digress. This could make everything even more rewarding, and I get a very rewarding experience utilizing the ice and TNT around me to take the tower. It's exactly what I want in a tower, and it's completely improvisational.

I've seen many skillful players use the ice and TNT blocks to dominate the playing field, and it's buying the whole team enough time to take the flag, or even buy enough time for the defenders to get back into the flag room after dying to defend the flag. I haven't had this much fun towering since I had a guild to tower at MoD with. This would be an exceptional tower for Snowtown, if that's ever a possibility.

Dusty · 06-05-2017

The issue with room shape is it would require more complex physics for bouncing the flag against non-perpendicular walls. Not saying it can't be done but that I don't have time to implement that right now, especially when I'm not sure it will actually fix the problem. I knew the trapping it into the corner was an issue but didn't have time to implement a fix, but I'm glad people are enjoying it!

Red · 06-05-2017

Haven't tried it out yet but does the icy floor allow me to skate around like the old snow tower and move extremely fast?

KristenGW · 06-05-2017

Posted by Red

Haven't tried it out yet but does the icy floor allow me to skate around like the old snow tower and move extremely fast?

Nope. Would be cool though

Overall I really like this tower design, it's really fun to use the ice blocks and bomb blocks as it adds another feature that makes it unique. Possible addition: adding a timer to the bomb blocks that starts counting down once it's been hit once. No real purpose, and it's fun either way.

Agonee · 06-05-2017

Could the AFKs in the cell get moved from the cell? there like 15 AFK in one cell and 2 people have to pull of the work from 17.

I like it that the Flag mostly gets cornered, the attackers have to corner the Flag and the defenders need to avoid that.

Areo · 06-05-2017

Posted by Agonee

I like it that the Flag mostly gets cornered, the attackers have to corner the Flag and the defenders need to avoid that.

I don't believe it helps the attackers at all. It actually helps to create a situation where the defenders get to constantly respawn and pin the attackers against the flag (which nullifies their hits, basically).

McCullough · 06-05-2017

Posted by Dusty

The issue with room shape is it would require more complex physics for bouncing the flag against non-perpendicular walls. Not saying it can't be done but that I don't have time to implement that right now, especially when I'm not sure it will actually fix the problem. I knew the trapping it into the corner was an issue but didn't have time to implement a fix, but I'm glad people are enjoying it!

Actually, never mind changing the room, after playing around for a few more hours and taking the tower by myself against 20 people a bunch of times, I think it's fine. I'm actually seeing the flag bounce in and out of the corners, so it really isn't an issue at all. I'm having a lot of fun the way it is.

Bryan* · 06-05-2017

Posted by Dusty

The issue with room shape is it would require more complex physics for bouncing the flag against non-perpendicular walls. Not saying it can't be done but that I don't have time to implement that right now, especially when I'm not sure it will actually fix the problem. I knew the trapping it into the corner was an issue but didn't have time to implement a fix, but I'm glad people are enjoying it!

Going out on a limb here, is it possible to create the room as a mini circular ice maze? Doesn't have to be complex (simple circle surrounding the flag).

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Overall, this is a good layout and I like its mechanics.

Agonee · 06-05-2017

Wouldn't make sense if players rush thru the sword tho, I like the fact that you're still able to hit when your sword is outside.

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twilit michael Join Date: May 2012 Location: Hyrule Posts: 3,511	I like the ice idea (cough still really want speed skating to come back), but one of the downfalls of a mobile flag is pretty much always gets stuck in a corner (bottom-right 90% of the time).

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Rekkles Banned Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: North England Posts: 302	To much space, no flag room, annoying 1 hit take and hows it a box fort?? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Paddie Banned Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 203	I like the ice idea too lol! Anybody wants to know why I'm not on the box fort anymore? Frankly I want to do so many things with that. I really can't understand what dusty is doing, I think he's average crazy and his mind is so close to many things, right? I started sparring about a month ago because Box Fort is terrible and you know someone keep banning me for 4K hours. Don't give him any ideas because it's his job! I won't think for him, sorry! I just liked the ice idea and that aquatic ecosystem lol.

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Estrella* General Of Gladius Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: United States Posts: 22	This has been here for over a month...

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McCullough Úsáideoir Cláraithe Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Michigan Posts: 527	Here are my thoughts on the Ice Tower at Box Fort™ I absolutely love this design. The mayhem, the death,the freezing, the explosions! Everyone and anyone may acquire an advantage in this kind of design, and I especially love the ice blocks and TNT ice blocks that can be used to completely rek hordes of attackers if given the opportunity. It's a very big fighting space, I like it. It would be unwise to spam, as there are a lot of flanking opportunities, as well as chances to freeze or explode your enemies. Nobody ever stops moving, and it makes it even more exciting to tower in. My only major issue is the flag, it usually always gets stuck in a corner and is very difficult to freeze due to the masses of players pking and trying to hit the flag. Like others have mentioned, it's probably a better idea to change the shape of the whole room, most have suggested circular. This way, the flag will never stop moving and players will need to create some sort of barricade to stop it, making it easier to hit the flag. The idea of using a shovel to create snow that will act as a barricade could be cool, as it would open up more defensive opportunities. Of course the snow should melt down and should be easily destroyed by swords/bombs/lanterns, etc. The idea of sliding around on the ice would give the tower another unique aspect. Sliding around while having to fight enemies could pose a challenge for everyone, and would require players to get used to it. The problem with this is that it would probably make it more difficult to hit the ice blocks into other players, or even the flag, but I digress. This could make everything even more rewarding, and I get a very rewarding experience utilizing the ice and TNT around me to take the tower. It's exactly what I want in a tower, and it's completely improvisational. I've seen many skillful players use the ice and TNT blocks to dominate the playing field, and it's buying the whole team enough time to take the flag, or even buy enough time for the defenders to get back into the flag room after dying to defend the flag. I haven't had this much fun towering since I had a guild to tower at MoD with. This would be an exceptional tower for Snowtown, if that's ever a possibility.

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Dusty Should be fixed. Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 6,359	The issue with room shape is it would require more complex physics for bouncing the flag against non-perpendicular walls. Not saying it can't be done but that I don't have time to implement that right now, especially when I'm not sure it will actually fix the problem. I knew the trapping it into the corner was an issue but didn't have time to implement a fix, but I'm glad people are enjoying it!

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Red Banned Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Australia Posts: 3,255	Haven't tried it out yet but does the icy floor allow me to skate around like the old snow tower and move extremely fast?

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Agonee (D19) & (Rek em) Join Date: May 2015 Location: Germany Posts: 945	Could the AFKs in the cell get moved from the cell? there like 15 AFK in one cell and 2 people have to pull of the work from 17. I like it that the Flag mostly gets cornered, the attackers have to corner the Flag and the defenders need to avoid that.