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So these are all the guild that have a tower atm.

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And these are the leaders of "LIONS LAW" and "SHIROKURO".

Sure they will always be people towering on Graal, but when you come to competitiveness on towering, you can't say it exists.

(@Reemas/4-Lom)  

If it gets 100,000 signatures the English government will have to consider it.  

Posted by Agonee

Didn't thought that anyone on the forums would get that triggered cause I call people noobs, there are noobs(newbies) cause they don't know how hard towering could be/used to be and think that they're the best in the game now(since they are newbies)

Move on bro. You're stuck in the past.

Posted by 4-Lom

Sounds like the "Competitive" players in this thread are sad that they don't get hats now, and are forced to go out into the rest of the game world and find other things to do than kill each other in one or two rooms to make any cash to get hats like the rest of us plebs...

^^^sums it up^^^

Posted by Red

.Look at these people, past towerers, sparrers and bkers who refuse to touch graal because the incentive just isn't there, its incredibly dumb how many people this has driven away.

(or they've grown bored of the lack of content)

I'm well aware not all of these are great examples.

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Great! Glad to see they made room for others.

Posted by Basi

4-lom, reemas, and lox, you guys need to sit down for a while and think. youre literally arguing against betterment of the game

I could use a better mint. Got any suggestions?  

congrats to the thread poster. you realized, just like thousands of other players, that the game is unbelievably ****ty right now. you also probably realized that whenever the admins do decide to bring the new guild system, (or cheap out and just give back rewards, abandoning the guild system) it'll be an even bigger disappointment. a thread on the unofficial graal forum won't change anything, because everyone else is still going to buy gralat packs and the 100k crappy 2p mounts.

your dedication is admirable, but like most of us, you'll eventually learn that as a player, there's no hope in fighting for change.  

It's people like Reemas, 4-Lom, and Lox (very unskilled and untalented players overall, I might add) who are the reason why little league teams are given participation awards instead of actual trophies for their accomplishments. The type of people who aren't very successful and refuse to strive for success, so they argue against the very idea of competition. U SUK KID UR BAD LOL  

Posted by ShivGraal

It's people like Reemas, 4-Lom, and Lox (very unskilled and untalented players overall, I might add) who are the reason why little league teams are given participation awards instead of actual trophies for their accomplishments. The type of people who aren't very successful and refuse to strive for success, so they argue against the very idea of competition. U SUK KID UR BAD LOL

It's crybabies like you that get triggered by people like us.  

Graal is defiantly going to the wrong turn, not exactly know how u don't see it. Like I've made 30-100wins a day for the last 300days maybe? I can see a wrong turn in that
Pkin just became useless once riots happened. I'm glad that isn't a thing anymore but tons of players hit 100k with 0 skill. Ive pked the last 7days, its really just full of Brazilians anytime I do pk. Sure there's players that still do but compare the 2017 pkers to the 2012 pkers. Big difference.  

Posted by ShivGraal

It's people like Reemas, 4-Lom, and Lox (very unskilled and untalented players overall, I might add) who are the reason why little league teams are given participation awards instead of actual trophies for their accomplishments. The type of people who aren't very successful and refuse to strive for success, so they argue against the very idea of competition. U SUK KID UR BAD LOL

Please quote me on anything I said that in anyways sticks out to you where I said anything relating to me wanting to ruin the game, then I can actually pay attentiom to that ****e that just came from you.

Adding that, everything I said was related to individuals and what they said, not a topic as a whole, thanks for misinterpreting that  

Jesus, i've been reading everything up. It goes down to simply people complaining and insulting people who do not take part on those aspects of the game, but want to fond a way to solve the ruckus on. If you "competitive" players just keep insulting us, people who try to find solutions for YOUR problems we (i agree) aren't even supposed to care about, how do you want this game to improve? You've indirectly and directly mentioned how influenced/dependant those activities are to the playerbase. So, instead of arguing with us, complaining or drowning in nostalgia, don't you make people come and play with you? There's no rewards? There's boosters? Then make yourself farm rewards! And make special sparring matches in your house with the new boobytraps from castle, go and show those "noob guilds" what you like about your respective aspect of the game, teach them so they can teach others, so they motivate others, the game may be on a bad moment for you guys,but you aren't trying to redeem it neither, so, how are you supposed to change ANYTHING if you aren't even trying? Instead, you spend your time spamming forums with nostalgia and mentioning your problems while also taking on people, how COULD that change anything? So i simply suggest you to try to revive them, if you tried, do so again! You'll Win more with that than complaining.

Excuse me if i have bad grammar or typos, english is not my maternal languague. Hope you find a way to solve this!  

Posted by LoX

Let me clarify from the few posts I've made on here, only once did I share my opinion on the state of the towering community, in that I agreed that the towering/community is dying, because it is, plain and clear.

Plus, thanks for sharing our stats Red! Because having the ability to talk about towering only comes with PK experience, even though towering at its core is quite basic. If I were sharing my opinion on the state of GST by all means have a go at me and say my opinion has no value, because it wouldn't as I've never been in it, but if having 9k pks suddenly makes me lack knowledge and have no value in regards to towering then hot damn, I'll shut right up.



Just adding, that my first point I made literally clarifies that, for me at least, I never said anything about arguing against any of that, I argued against points that individuals made yes, but as a whole no I didn't

your opinion literally has 0 value

4-lom you posted pics of your bug collection in a thread for pk/spar/bk and pretty much said that gave you an opinion. Take the L.

I feel burger refuge roleplay is more suited to you just stick to that and maybe you wouldn't give me a headache everytime you posted.  

Posted by Red

your opinion literally has 0 value

4-lom you posted pics of your bug collection in a thread for pk/spar/bk and pretty much said that gave you an opinion. Take the L.

I feel burger refuge roleplay is more suited to you just stick to that and maybe you wouldn't give me a headache everytime you posted.

So far this post has been a bunch of people complaining about how good towering and pking USED to be, if you're sick of how bad it's gotten, move on and find a different game that suits your needs, if not, quit complaining and move forward, not backwards.

So far the only person who has suggested any way of moving forward is Jose, so get some panadol for your headache, and quit whinging about how good it used to be, get over it or move on.  

Posted by BrandonGraal

Graal is defiantly going to the wrong turn, not exactly know how u don't see it. Like I've made 30-100wins a day for the last 300days maybe? I can see a wrong turn in that
Pkin just became useless once riots happened. I'm glad that isn't a thing anymore but tons of players hit 100k with 0 skill. Ive pked the last 7days, its really just full of Brazilians anytime I do pk. Sure there's players that still do but compare the 2017 pkers to the 2012 pkers. Big difference.

Maybe its a sign telling you to go outside a bit more.  

Its not like it takes a long time to make that many wins  

Posted by LoX

So far this post has been a bunch of people complaining about how good towering and pking USED to be, if you're sick of how bad it's gotten, move on and find a different game that suits your needs, if not, quit complaining and move forward, not backwards.

So far the only person who has suggested any way of moving forward is Jose, so get some panadol for your headache, and quit whinging about how good it used to be, get over it or move on.

That is just a dumb problematic response.

You are saying "if your sick about how **** the game has got move on" but moving on is the problem?? People are complaining towering is empty and no one is active because people have been moving on, using "move on" as a alternative to the graal competitive side dying, its just ironic and i have no idea if your just a troll, or actually ******ed.  

good arguments