Posted by Mangsi

I'd rather vote for someone who's willing to protect my rights as a human being, over someone who doesn't care about anyone other than themself.

Hillary Clinton ftw.

I know you're joking but glad you still said this so I can bring up this point:

Melania Trump has vowed to protect your rights and the rights of everyone else, as well as making an anti-bullying crusade especially in the online environment. That might not seem like much, but it's actually a huge problem in youth and something I've never seen anyone in government put actual effort in preventing.

Also, pretty ironic that Bill Clinton says he feels bad for Trumps wife when Bills favourite time to have sex is when Hillary isn't home  

Posted by Colin

I know you're joking but glad you still said this so I can bring up this point:

Melania Trump has vowed to protect your rights and the rights of everyone else, as well as making an anti-bullying crusade especially in the online environment. That might not seem like much, but it's actually a huge problem in youth and something I've never seen anyone in government put actual effort in preventing

It's also a huge problem with 70 year old businessmen who run for President.  

Posted by PigParty

It's also a huge problem with 70 year old businessmen who run for President.

big difference in bullying a teenager to suicide and making mean tweets about people who make them to you, give me one good example of Trump "bullying" an individual who didn't attack him first, lol if you think twitter arguments between older people is bullying then GG logic  

I know I'm not American and really have no say but please for the love of ****ing god vote for someone who actually wants change and has provided valid points over some weird bitch who drinks pig sperm and menstrual blood while she endangers national security.  

http://www.politico.com/f/?id=000001...e-bbdf51aa0001

Oh look, the woman who claimed Trump raped her when she was 13 (she was offered money to make these claims by a TV producer) has lawsuit dismissed the day after she cited "death threats" as to why she didn't have the courage to speak in public about it

I hope she faces a defamation lawsuit in response to the degree that she's forced into filing for bankruptcy  

This video is great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vST6...ature=youtu.be  

Huge reddit post about their corruption, just going to repost here:

The Clinton Foundation has been used as a for-profit operating under charity for years. It has all been done under the CGI (Clinton Global Initiative) and now Teneo. Several key employees responsible were paid as part of CESC (Clinton Executive Services Corp). CESC is also the company who paid for the email servers.

Here is an email discussing the potential for exposure when the proposition to move CESC into the CF building is discussed. Why would they care about exposure? Because it would bring investigation.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/45082

a. Do we want to move these personnel from Harlem? Keep in mind that we risk exposure because it will mean GSA is paying for an empty 8600 squarefeet until August 2014, our first out option. We have landlords who aren’t happy we moved most of our operations out of their building and wouldn’t mind leaking an empty floor to the press.
b. If we are okay with taking the exposure risk, do we envision the auditors coming back and recommending (and BC accepting) that CESC shouldnot operate within CF space even with a sub-lease agreement?
c. The advantages of course are obvious – better business continuity, management, etc.

They knew that thing were getting to be sketchy, so they came up with a way to hide everything. In the form of a company called Teneo. Teneo was founded by long-time Clinton Aide Douglas Band and Declan Kelly. Douglas Band was the one who created the Clinton Global Initiative, which opened the doors to all foreign donations. Declan Kelly was appointed a position at the State Department by Hillary Clinton: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...o-final-221807

After Teneo was created, Chelsea Clinton smelled something fishy about that organization and started investigating it. Here are a few of the claims she found:https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/39916

A former MF Global employee accused former president William J. Clinton of collecting $50,000 per month through his Teneo advisory firm in the months before the brokerage careened towards its Halloween filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy.
Teneo was hired by MF Global’s former CEO Jon S. Corzine to improve his image and to enhance his connections with Clinton’s political family, said the employee, who asked that his name be withheld because he feared retribution.

Why would Jon Corzine do that for Bill Clinton? Because they had been friends for a long time… He served on a presidential committee for Bill Clinton and on a Department of Treasury’s borrowing committee. Take a look through the MF Global bankruptcy and the whole thing reeks:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MF_Global

Here is another email where Doug Band expresses his concerns to Cheryl Mills and john Podesta: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/36761

I'm also starting to worry that if this story gets out, we are screwed. Dk and I built a business. 65 people work for us who have wives and husbands and kids, they all depend on us. Our business has almost nothing to do with the clintons, the foundation or cgi in any way. The chairman of ubs could care a less about cgi. Our fund clients who we do restructuring and m and a advising the same just as bhp nor tivo do. These are real companies who we provide real advice to through very serious people. Comm head for goldman, dep press secretary to bloomberg, former head of banking, and his team, from morgan stanley for asia and latin am.

Here is Band losing his crap again about the connections between Teneo and the Clinton Foundation: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/46430

I have to agree. I think there WJC may have some real serious conflicts if we start to make too many rules. It may be time to update some procedures but we can not ignore the nexus of WJC's life.
Also. I signed a conflict of interest policy as a board member of cgi. On it, I wrote that my wife designs bags for cgi, and loses money doing so plus donating her time.And that teneo represents 4 cgi sponsors, 3 of which teneo brought to cgi. Oddly, wjc does not have to sign such a document even though he is personally paid by 3 cgi sponsors, gets many expensive gifts from them, some that are at home etc
I could add 500 different examples of things like this and while I removed lasry bc they are all on the offense, I get the sense that they are trying to put some sort of wrong doing on me after the audit as a crutch to change things and if I don't mention things like lasry where they all have issues, I may regret it

Here he is talking about how they can restructure the foundation to avoid suspicion:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/42839

For teneo, well before mf global, we have been discussing this. Its going to hurt teneo to have wjc on the adv bd any longer but we need come up with a reorg concept for the relationship with wjc and teneo that is lower key and handled privately and properly that we should discuss

Here is the email where they propose the actual restructuring, notice what I quote. They did this to pretend to be a real division to anyone outside, and were concerned about anything that makes it appear otherwise:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/38408

HR and I had a follow up discussion and HR reminded me that CESC is currently served by the multi plan benefit network and thus would this new CESC allow it's employees currently accessing CF benefits to retain those benefits rather than force them to switch to CF. I thought this would be legally difficult if we are trying to formalize the lines, perception and real, but you all tell me Here is a claim from

Here is some different lines of communication that I found that involve their reaction to accusations about foul play, and how to divert attention:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/46014

I’m sensitive to that (which is why I’m asking) but those CHAI Stats are on nearly every public listing of CF accomplishment. I’m want to make people think twice about calls for dropping grants to CF or return the money and the HIV/AIDS work hits home in a way that other stats don’t. Plus it’s international work. I’m concerned about saying we used money to fund healthy schools (because we didn’t use the funding for that)

CHAI = Clinton Health Access Initiative
They are discussing using CHAI's good deeds to deflect allegations about foreign conflicts of interest still being allowed to donate.

TLDR;
*Clinton was using influence to make money via Clinton Global Initiative
*Chelsea was brought onto the foundation and started to get concerned about all the allegations of foul play
*Chelsea found evidence of corruption, starts getting scared
*Her concerns, and a few gossip posts, scares the Clinton's
*They hire a law firm to look through everything and see if they are exposed
*Cheryl Mills, a different Clinton's lawyer, and State Department employee at the time devised up a strategy to reorganize Clinton Foundation to prevent accusations of foul play
*Long-time Clinton staff member Douglas Band and Hillary appointed Secretary of State member Declan Kelly make company called Teneo
*The money previously acquired through CGI is now being funneled through Teneo and the Clinton's look squeaky clean  

Posted by Colin

big difference in bullying a teenager to suicide and making mean tweets about people who make them to you, give me one good example of Trump "bullying" an individual who didn't attack him first, lol if you think twitter arguments between older people is bullying then GG logic

Trump attacked Alicia Machado without her saying anything about Trump:

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politi...htmlstory.html

Here's some more.

http://www.marieclaire.co.uk/enterta...p-quotes-57213

Granted, most of them aren't offensive, but some of them are. Some of them are just funny - or pathetic. Some of them aren't directed at an individual person but are still offensive to an entire class of people, but some of them are directed at an individual (although I agree with the Rosie O'Donnell tweet). The fact is that he has attacked people who actually did not say anything about him prior to that. And you're right, there is a big difference between a teenager bullying another teenager and Donald Trump making bullying, offensive tweets and attacks in interviews. The main difference, though, is that one of them is a Presidential candidate and someone who should be a role model. It's much worse for someone in power and in a high position to do what Trump does. We criticize Hillary Clinton for misuing her position and power, yet it's all excusable when it comes to Donald Trump.  

There is no proof he said any of that, they are "unnamed sources" who claimed he did, which is why he made a few tweets about her AFTER Hillary brought her up in the debate to attack Trump, basically just him calling it out as being a lie and something made up to use against him.

"All of the women on The Apprentice flirted with me – consciously or unconsciously. That’s to be expected." made me laugh they use this to make him sound like a pig, it was a competition game show that everyone wanted to win, he's just saying it's expected they would do that thinking it would help them out.

Anyone else he attacks has at some point targeted him like when he insulted the Huffington News founder who has countless stories about him, this includes Rosie O Donnell.

Lol he's a pig who disrespects women because he said his wife has a nice ass? lol that whole list is a joke  

Posted by Colin

There is no proof he said any of that, they are "unnamed sources" who claimed he did, which is why he made a few tweets about her AFTER Hillary brought her up in the debate to attack Trump, basically just him calling it out as being a lie and something made up to use against him.

Hillary Clinton brought up Alicia Machado. Donald Trump attacked Allicia Machado. Proof of him calling her miss piggy and that stuff is irrelevant. The fact is that he attacked her for no reason, rather than attacking Hillary Clinton. The fact is that Trump is a cyber bully himself, and it's humorously ironic that Melania Trump came out and said that would be her platform as the First Lady.

Posted by Colin

Lol he's a pig who disrespects women because he said his wife has a nice ass? lol that whole list is a joke

"I've never seen a thin person drinking Diet Coke."

He has made many insults through twitter.

Not to mention personal attacks that he has made in TV/radio interviews, or in rallies, like when he mocked a disabled reporter.  

Posted by PigParty

rather than attacking Hillary Clinton.

"Wow, Crooked Hillary was duped and used by my worst Miss U. Hillary floated her as an "angel" without checking her past, which is terrible!"

"Using Alicia M in the debate as a paragon of virtue just shows that Crooked Hillary suffers from BAD JUDGEMENT! Hillary was set up by a con."

Lol? All of his tweets were directed to Hillary...

The only one that was somewhat targeting Alicia was:
"Did Crooked Hillary help disgusting (check out sex tape and past) Alicia M become a U.S. citizen so she could use her in the debate?"

The only "attacking" towards Alicia was saying check out her sex tape, all he's simply saying is check out her past.

Back in 1997, Trump defended Machado in a backhanded way at an event designed to allow the press to watch her work out. He told "Extra" at the time, "I think it would have been a terrible thing to terminate Alicia from the pageant. She was, when she won last year, one of the most beautiful women I had ever seen, and everybody in the audience were saying literally, ‘ hands-down winner.' She's gained a tremendous amount of weight and she has, I guess, an eating disorder of some kind.”

In 2005, while still engaged to Philadelphia Phillies baseball player Bobby Abreu, she was caught having sex on camera with TV host Fernando Acaso on the Spanish reality show “La Granja,” which is similar to “Big Brother.”

During the episode, Machado was heard complimenting Acaso’s manhood. At the time, the show's host read the following testimonial by Machado: "Really, that guy is cute, he loves me, he understands me, he accepts me, he protects me, he supports me, he respects me. He treats me like a goddess, he f**ks me like a b*tch!"

RESEARCH.  

Posted by PigParty

"worst Miss U." "check out sex tape" which BTW, you excused criticisms of Trump for having no evidence, yet there's no evidence of a sex tape even though Trumo defamed her character by accusing her of having one. I really can't tell if you're that delusional or are just joking.

Posted by Colin

In 2005, while still engaged to Philadelphia Phillies baseball player Bobby Abreu, she was caught having sex on camera with TV host Fernando Acaso on the Spanish reality show “La Granja,” which is similar to “Big Brother.”


During the episode, Machado was heard complimenting Acaso’s manhood. At the time, the show's host read the following testimonial by Machado: "Really, that guy is cute, he loves me, he understands me, he accepts me, he protects me, he supports me, he respects me. He treats me like a goddess, he f**ks me like a b*tch!"

RESEARCH.

Are you blind? He didn't create the accusations, it's known fact what she did and she did it during an episode of a T.V show, you can google the video and watch her in action yourself, but I'm not going to link it here because it is not appropriate.

Why do you think her husband divorced her right after?

Funny tho, a whole thing about corruption and the main talking point becomes about another Hillary attempt to tarnish Trumps reputation with false information  

Posted by Colin

Are you blind? He didn't create the accusations, it's known fact what she did and she did it during an episode of a T.V show, you can google the video and watch her in action yourself, but I'm not going to link it here because it is not appropriate.

It's a known fact that Trump publicly admitted to sexually assaulting people. Yet that crime doesn't fit the pro-Trump agenda, so it's excused as "locker room talk" even though it took place on a bus, while Trump was 59 years old, and describing things he's done to people in Hollywood. Trump has a way with wording his stupid statements in a way that can be interpreted different ways. Saying she has a sex tape does not at all sound like she had sex on a reality show. Sounds a lot more like a porn video that she had recorded herself. In which case there is no evidence of her ever doing that.

Once again, though, Trump is a Presidential candidate. He shouldn't be attacking anyone and everyone for no reason. It doesn't even matter if someone else started it. If you say the **** that Trump says, it's still cyber bullying.  

He didn't admit to sexually assaulting anyone, he just said that as a star and celebrity girls in that environment will go for that sort of thing, "And when you’re a star, they let you do it" he hasn't said anything he had specifically done, and if they are letting you do it then it isn't sexual assault - how come none of them have ever come forward?

For all you know it could have just been him trying to sound cool in front of the other guys, he didn't "publicly admit to sexually assaulting people". You talk about him having a way with wording yet you are doing the exact same thing, how does a private video where he didn't even mention anything he had specifically done become a public admittance to sexual assault?

Sex tape is just people having sex, the tape was recorded AFTER the actual episode and even if she didn't post it her self it can still be considered as that.  

Posted by Colin

He didn't admit to sexually assaulting anyone, he just said that as a star and celebrity girls in that environment will go for that sort of thing, "And when you’re a star, they let you do it" he hasn't said anything he had specifically done, and if they are letting you do it then it isn't sexual assault - how come none of them have ever come forward?

For all you know it could have just been him trying to sound cool in front of the other guys, he didn't "publicly admit to sexually assaulting people".

Sex tape is just people having sex, the tape was recorded AFTER the actual episode and even if she didn't post it her self it can still be considered as that.

At this point, I don't even know what to say. If you want to be extremely technical when it comes to Trump but allow a **** ton of leeway with criticisms of Hillary Clinton, then ok. I don't know about you, but if I heard this:

“I’ve got to use some Tic Tacs, just in case I start kissing her,” Trump says. “You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait.”

“And when you’re a star, they let you do it,” Trump says. “You can do anything.”

“Whatever you want,” says another voice, apparently Bush’s.

“Grab them by the p---y,” Trump says. “You can do anything.”

I would be thinking that Trump is talking about himself, since he flat out suggests it. You don't need 100% video proof or admission to say reasonably that Trump was talking about himself doing those things. For all you know, Hillary Clinton was just kissing up to Wall Street when she said she had a public and private position. Perfect example of hypocrisy. Get real and accept when Trump is in the wrong. That's why the news gets away with focusing on Trump's dumb statements. Hillary Clinton and her campaign either admit it was wrong (email server, basket of deplorables, etc.) or they ignore it and move on. Trump and his campaign try to excuse every damn thing he does, which causes never-ending arguments like what we have going on now. You don't have to support Hillary Clinton to admit when Donald Trump is in the wrong.