Posted by Yog

Do you not understand how Reddit works? Every user is equal. Liking Sanders is popular on the internet. Same with hating Hillary which you and Fulgore do a lot. It's the same reason why Bernie Sanders is winning this thread, and Hillary only has 3 votes. It's nothing to do with hi-jacking.

I don't hate Hillary, I just like Trump. My issue with Reddit being hijacked as a platform for Bernie Sanders is that the sole existence of Reddit is to provide "social news." That is not what they do with Bernie Sanders. Every thread in /r/politics and /r/news that positively influences Sanders is voted up, and every thread that negatively influences Trump or Clinton is voted up. That isn't how the Reddit upvote system is supposed to work.

From their site:

If you think something contributes to conversation, upvote it. If you think it does not contribute to the subreddit it is posted in or is off-topic in a particular community, downvote it.

Yet and still, Bernie Sanders will be plastered all over /r/all when he wins a state, and the other two candidates are burried in negatives when they win.

This is no different than the influence of a major news network like CNN sensationalizing stories for ratings. Reddit literally has a way to suppress news they don't want you to see and to highlight news they do want you to see. That's arguably more poisonous than anything any major news network does...

The ****master himself even makes appearances, begging for donations: https://www.reddit.com/user/bernie-sanders
So, when will Reddit either fix vote brigading or announce their official endorsement of Sanders? It needs to be one or the other.  

go onto /r/The_Donald thats the only good subreddit on that hellhole site. Also the liberal tears today when bernie gets schlonged and trump destroys.  

Posted by Thallen

I don't hate Hillary, I just like Trump. My issue with Reddit being hijacked as a platform for Bernie Sanders is that the sole existence of Reddit is to provide "social news." That is not what they do with Bernie Sanders. Every thread in /r/politics and /r/news that positively influences Sanders is voted up, and every thread that negatively influences Trump or Clinton is voted up. That isn't how the Reddit upvote system is supposed to work.

From their site:


Yet and still, Bernie Sanders will be plastered all over /r/all when he wins a state, and the other two candidates are burried in negatives when they win.

This is no different than the influence of a major news network like CNN sensationalizing stories for ratings. Reddit literally has a way to suppress news they don't want you to see and to highlight news they do want you to see. That's arguably more poisonous than anything any major news network does...

The ****master himself even makes appearances, begging for donations: https://www.reddit.com/user/bernie-sanders
So, when will Reddit either fix vote brigading or announce their official endorsement of Sanders? It needs to be one or the other.

there is no way you don't browse /pol/  

Why even debate politics on the internet?

Its the internet for ****s sake. Rationality is cast out and replaced with unfiltered chaos.

Hell, its even starting to get bad in real life with Anti-Trump people going to Trump rallies and acting like they're literally on the internet debating.

You know ****s getting bad when people act like they're on the internet IRL.  

Posted by Thallen

I don't hate Hillary, I just like Trump. My issue with Reddit being hijacked as a platform for Bernie Sanders is that the sole existence of Reddit is to provide "social news." That is not what they do with Bernie Sanders. Every thread in /r/politics and /r/news that positively influences Sanders is voted up, and every thread that negatively influences Trump or Clinton is voted up. That isn't how the Reddit upvote system is supposed to work.

From their site:


Yet and still, Bernie Sanders will be plastered all over /r/all when he wins a state, and the other two candidates are burried in negatives when they win.

This is no different than the influence of a major news network like CNN sensationalizing stories for ratings. Reddit literally has a way to suppress news they don't want you to see and to highlight news they do want you to see. That's arguably more poisonous than anything any major news network does...

The ****master himself even makes appearances, begging for donations: https://www.reddit.com/user/bernie-sanders
So, when will Reddit either fix vote brigading or announce their official endorsement of Sanders? It needs to be one or the other.

Even you agree the rules should deter people from downvoting Hillary posts, but it doesn't. That's just because there are more Bernie supporters there than Hillary supporters, regardless whether they're paid or not. Reddit users are Bernie's prime demographic, so that contributes a lot to it.

I'm not denying that there aren't people being paid to promote him. I mainly browse Imgur and even the Bernie supporters there call them "bernbots". But when your budget is significantly less than your opponents while they are constantly getting media coverage and you're being shut out, what other options do you have?  

Posted by Yog

Even you agree the rules should deter people from downvoting Hillary posts, but it doesn't. That's just because there are more Bernie supporters there than Hillary supporters, regardless whether they're paid or not. Reddit users are Bernie's prime demographic, so that contributes a lot to it.

I'm not denying that there aren't people being paid to promote him. I mainly browse Imgur and even the Bernie supporters there call them "bernbots". But when your budget is significantly less than your opponents while they are constantly getting media coverage and you're being shut out, what other options do you have?

To roll over and die ofc  

Posted by Fulgore

To roll over and die ofc

Why are you so fascinated with shutting Bernie supporters off? If you really think it's going to amount to nothing then let it do it's thing. It's not a threat to you.  

Posted by Yog

Why are you so fascinated with shutting Bernie supporters off? If you really think it's going to amount to nothing then let it do it's thing. It's not a threat to you.

The fascination stems from the amount of fanatics surrounding the campus I'm at right now who will flood the streets with tears soon.  

Posted by Fulgore

The fascination stems from the amount of fanatics surrounding the campus I'm at right now who will flood the streets with tears soon.

Their dreams of free college are slowly drifting away...  

Posted by Yog

Why are you so fascinated with shutting Bernie supporters off? If you really think it's going to amount to nothing then let it do it's thing. It's not a threat to you.

Because bernfags and liberals in general are pure cancer. they do nothing except trying to kill free speech, ruin the wests culture, ruin the economy, and take away our freedoms because they are uncomfertable. They never argue or do something instead they sit and moan and cry and scream there buzzwords at people. They need to go. Also not to mention that they are racists, sexist, and delusional.

Posted by 5hift

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Hell, its even starting to get bad in real life with Anti-Trump people going to Trump rallies and acting like they're literally on the internet debating.

You know ****s getting bad when people act like they're on the internet IRL.

What how far are you behind on this? They been doing this since trump announced his policies. All they do is go into a trump speech and make a ****load of noise and yell **** like black lives matter. Only to have the whole crowd turn on them and drown them out with a glorious USA Or TRUMP chat and the cameras turn and we see how yuuuuge the crowds are. Man if they did this **** to hillary instead. I want the GE to be between the two meme canidates.  

8:40 of that video...  

Maybe I haven't scrolled back far enough in the chat, but since there are some Trump supporters here: how do you genuinely feel about the John Oliver segment on Trump? I've looked around the internet, and it doesn't seem there are many negative reactions to it besides his Drumpf campaign, and how it may be anti-immigrant.

While it is a satirical show, Oliver provides a lot of cited sources to prove his points against Trump are true. What would be your response to his claims?  

I don't really know what to make of a show based entirely on satire with the host commenting on his "cocktail sausage fingers" as a "point against Trump", and other things of the like. Taking sound clips under 4 seconds long doesn't really help either, except in causing a few laughs. And I did laugh at some things in this segment, but by no means did I take it seriously. That's equivalent to using the Colbert Report as your news source.  

A lot of his points sound like he's reaching for low-hanging fruit that every other major news network has juiced for a headline.

For example, his response about the David Duke endorsement. He claims Donald Trump is a racist for responding to a news anchor in the way he did. Anyone can endorse Trump for whatever reason they want. He doesn't control that, and quite frankly he doesn't have to make some statement claiming he doesn't want their vote. That's exactly the kind of politically correct garbage Trump (and his supporters) don't care about. Because he won't publically claim that he doesn't want the vote of someone who is a racist means he's racist? That's very stupid. News flash for Oliver, in America people are actually given the freedom to be racist! It may not be a pretty thing, but it doesn't mean that Trump has to panic and apologize because a racist endorsed him.

Then, his statement about Trump's multiple failed business. I'm not sure how often he interviews entrepreneurs like Trump. A business failing has nothing to do with a campaign. People take risks on businesses. This guy has been involved in such a wide range of businesses that I think it's pretty clear that, at one point, he was throwing ideas at a wall and seeing what stuck. The dude has gone from real estate to side businesses like steak and vodka... Does John Oliver not think Donald Trump knows the risks of starting a business? A "failed" business isn't entirely a failure when you understand and accept the risks you're getting into. Taking chances is how you become successful. Trump is loaded right now, so how much of a failure can his businesses really be? Is Oliver under the impression that the other candidates have never failed at anything?  

Posted by Latte

Spoiler

Maybe I haven't scrolled back far enough in the chat, but since there are some Trump supporters here: how do you genuinely feel about the John Oliver segment on Trump? I've looked around the internet, and it doesn't seem there are many negative reactions to it besides his Drumpf campaign, and how it may be anti-immigrant.

While it is a satirical show, Oliver provides a lot of cited sources to prove his points against Trump are true. What would be your response to his claims?

Well that was hilarious. I only wish Jon Stewart was still on CC during this election. Most Trump supporters who are reasonably informed with politics usually know most of the attacks on him. For his "failed businesses" that doesn't matter. Businesses fail all the time, but the parent corporation hasn't failed. I thought it was stupid of him not to condemn David Duke, but he did later, which really didn't matter at that point. I think he doesn't want to condemn someone who wants to vote for him. Which I honestly understand. He never brought it up nor wanted to, but he does want every vote he can get. My honest reason for looking past all the **** Trump says and does is that it's the politicians' fault. They've done nothing for decades and put themselves and us in this position where I'm voting for President because I think that thus person is a risk I'm willing to take. If I'm willing to vote for someone whk I think is a gamble, it just shows how desparate America is. It has much less to do with Trump himself, rather, the politicians and establishment. Donald Trump doesn't shy away from controversial ideas, and often times those ideas are needed, or at least need to be part of the discussion. For example, temporarily banning Muslims from entering the country. Although, I think until a proper system can be set up, we should ban any refugee and accept people on an individual level. Killing terrorists' families... That's too far for my beliefs, although most families do know about, or are even cooperating with the terrorist group. If I had a penny for every time a politician lied, I'd have more money than Trump. He lies a lot, yes. Every other candidate pretty much lies on an hourly basis, too. Like last night's speech by Ted Cruz. He quoted Trump for saying Education should be one of the top 3 priorities for the government. I saw the town hall when Trump said that, and Anderson Cooper (who I like a lot) questioned him further on that since Trump said previously that education should go to the states, and Trump clarified that Education was a government priority because it is in the power of the government right now and it needs to be released to the states, which means that the government has to do something with it to to allow the states to handle education. Ted Cruz most likely knew that, but like all politicians, he lied and took it out of context. I hear polls constantly about the disapproval rate/"would not vote for" of Trump. I heard that since the start of the election. But not once did I see a poll for the "would not vote for" rates of other candidates until just recently. Which apparenlty, are all pretty high, not unlike Donald Trump at all.