False accusation and automated detection integrity

Lambda · 04-25-2016

So recently I have been stealth-ed because they detected 'hack tools'.

Hell no I don't have this kind of tools, last time this happened it was because of a .XML text editor that I used to translate a project to French, now I don't have anything to uninstall.

This really questions me the consistency of the system, heck is this even monitored?

And yeah if they don't believe I don't have any hack tools I'm screwed, I admit the .XML editor is a 'tool', but I uninstalled it and since then I was free, and again now I have nothing to uninstall.

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cryptx · 04-25-2016

It's monitored by zone patrols. Actually it is supposed to turn gani hackers invisible. Message a zp and they'll remove it.

Yog · 04-25-2016

Posted by cryptx

It's monitored by zone patrols.

Nope. It's entirely automatic, and when I was staff it was never reviewed who was stealthed by it. It was entirely the one who was stealthed who had the responsibility to do something about it.

Posted by cryptx

Message a zp and they'll remove it.

Most likely going to be asked to submit a ticket.

Lambda · 04-25-2016

Yeah I did, but I noticed the process of sending a ticket is very complicated now

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Platinum · 04-25-2016

I'm pretty sure toonslab is down at the moment, and you're supposed to send your 'ticket' to [email protected]

Hope this helps!

PigParty · 04-25-2016

Message Gold, even if he's offline. He can fix that. The hack tool system is something Tash made, and like most systems on Zone, it's bull ****. When I did tickets, I was told to basically remove the hack tools from everyone who sent a ticket about it. Not sure why they even wasted my time with it if that was the case, plus I had many tickets that claimed to never have hacked, which I believed. The system doesn't work and gets people who actually aren't hacking. Plus it makes them invisible. How idiotic. They sometimes use items with auras and crap to make everyone's screen flash, just like it does when an admin in stealth uses an item. But of course, that system probably won't ever be fixed or removed, because this is zone

Lambda · 04-25-2016

Posted by Platinum

I'm pretty sure toonslab is down at the moment, and you're supposed to send your 'ticket' to [email protected]

Hope this helps!

Posted by PigParty

Message Gold, even if he's offline. He can fix that. The hack tool system is something Tash made, and like most systems on Zone, it's bull ****. When I did tickets, I was told to basically remove the hack tools from everyone who sent a ticket about it. Not sure why they even wasted my time with it if that was the case, plus I had many tickets that claimed to never have hacked, which I believed. The system doesn't work and gets people who actually aren't hacking. Plus it makes them invisible. How idiotic. They sometimes use items with auras and crap to make everyone's screen flash, just like it does when an admin in stealth uses an item. But of course, that system probably won't ever be fixed or removed, because this is zone

Will try, thanks for the suggestions

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cryptx · 04-25-2016

Posted by Yog

Nope. It's entirely automatic, and when I was staff it was never reviewed who was stealthed by it. It was entirely the one who was stealthed who had the responsibility to do something about it.

Most likely going to be asked to submit a ticket.

There's a button on rc where we can monitor this system

Yog · 04-25-2016

Posted by cryptx

There's a button on rc where we can monitor this system

No there's not. Even if there was, it's never been used.

PigParty · 04-25-2016

Posted by cryptx

There's a button on rc where we can monitor this system

There isn't. I don't even think the Banned/punishment button shows when someone gets it. Even if it did, you can't see everyone who has it, you would just see when someone gets it at that moment, which is pointless.

The hack detect system is terrible & should just be removed or improved a lot.

cryptx · 04-26-2016

There is the "Hackers" button on rc, there you can see if someone has hacktools installed and turns invisible. But I agree, the system is horrible

PumaD · 04-26-2016

Is Carlito the manager of Zone now?

Yog · 04-26-2016

Posted by cryptx

There is the "Hackers" button on rc, there you can see if someone has hacktools installed and turns invisible. But I agree, the system is horrible

There is a tab that shows when when an anti-hack script runs, but it's never looked at, and just like RC chat it only shows when you're logged in. If you log in after a script has been run there will be no evidence of it.

Posted by PumaD

Is Carlito the manager of Zone now?

Yes. AFAIK he's looking to appoint someone else but I'm not sure

PigParty · 04-26-2016

It's funny. No tab is ever looked at besides the chat tab. Even the feedback tab is never looked at, which means that sending feedback is pointless because no one ever sees it. Funny stuff.

I recommended a system to FR for 'feedback' in a sense, and he was supposed to be working on it... Still haven't seen the project come out yet.

Alexmo · 04-26-2016

Sig*h so someone has to been the person that talks to players I guess this is my job what do I need

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Lambda Registered User Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 189	False accusation and automated detection integrity So recently I have been stealth-ed because they detected 'hack tools'. Hell no I don't have this kind of tools, last time this happened it was because of a .XML text editor that I used to translate a project to French, now I don't have anything to uninstall. This really questions me the consistency of the system, heck is this even monitored? And yeah if they don't believe I don't have any hack tools I'm screwed, I admit the .XML editor is a 'tool', but I uninstalled it and since then I was free, and again now I have nothing to uninstall. Sent from my SM-G925P using Tapatalk

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cryptx Registered User Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 37	It's monitored by zone patrols. Actually it is supposed to turn gani hackers invisible. Message a zp and they'll remove it.

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Platinum Back from the dead? Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Australia Posts: 2,533	I'm pretty sure toonslab is down at the moment, and you're supposed to send your 'ticket' to [email protected] Hope this helps!

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PigParty PigParty🐷 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: PigPen Posts: 2,913	Message Gold, even if he's offline. He can fix that. The hack tool system is something Tash made, and like most systems on Zone, it's bull ****. When I did tickets, I was told to basically remove the hack tools from everyone who sent a ticket about it. Not sure why they even wasted my time with it if that was the case, plus I had many tickets that claimed to never have hacked, which I believed. The system doesn't work and gets people who actually aren't hacking. Plus it makes them invisible. How idiotic. They sometimes use items with auras and crap to make everyone's screen flash, just like it does when an admin in stealth uses an item. But of course, that system probably won't ever be fixed or removed, because this is zone

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cryptx Registered User Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 37	There is the "Hackers" button on rc, there you can see if someone has hacktools installed and turns invisible. But I agree, the system is horrible

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PumaD donald trump'd Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,438	Is Carlito the manager of Zone now?

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Alexmo Banned Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: I live in a place on a place Posts: 1,464	Sig*h so someone has to been the person that talks to players I guess this is my job what do I need