Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM

for bad guns like the gorgon, pharo, razorback I got the bloodthirsties on hardcore aswell since they are all 1-2 shot kills there.

Are you joking??? The Pharo is [b]THE best[b/] gun in the game, you just have to know how to use it. I get 1 spray kills and hella multi kills with it. Definitely not a bad gun at all. Prob top 10 in CoD history IMO.  

So far done I have all the SMGs and ARs, the Dingo, BRM, KRM, and currently working on the Gorgon. I've only been playing the Chaos Moshpit and the nuk3town playlist during 2xp. The hardest guns for me have been the Pharo and Gorgon. The Gorgon is a beast of a weapon and I constantly find myself getting feeds and yesterday even got a nuclear with it. It's just hard for me to get headshots with it for some reason. I just found the Pharo to be hard to use and kind of weak. My favorites have been the Razorback, M8, KN-44, and the Gorgon. For some reason in this game I play much better with assault rifles, contrary to BO2 when the MSMC, Vesper, and Scorpion were my go-to weapons.  

Posted by Vic

So far done I have all the SMGs and ARs, the Dingo, BRM, KRM, and currently working on the Gorgon. I've only been playing the Chaos Moshpit and the nuk3town playlist during 2xp. The hardest guns for me have been the Pharo and Gorgon. The Gorgon is a beast of a weapon and I constantly find myself getting feeds and yesterday even got a nuclear with it. It's just hard for me to get headshots with it for some reason. I just found the Pharo to be hard to use and kind of weak. My favorites have been the Sheiva, M8, KN-44, and the Gorgon. For some reason in this game I play much better with assault rifles, contrary to BO2 when the MSMC, Vesper, and Scorpion were my go-to weapons.

Put FMJ, rapid fire, grip, and maybe a red dot site on the PHARO, and then bam, best gun ever  

No, screw COD. The games start to suck more and more when they attempt a sequel.  

Posted by DJ Meow

No, screw COD. The games start to suck more and more when they attempt a sequel.

just don't look at this thread then...

Posted by Its_Nanner

Put FMJ, rapid fire, grip, and maybe a red dot site on the PHARO, and then bam, best gun ever

I was running grip, rapid fire, fast mags, and an ELO sight and still had a bad time.  

Posted by Vic

just don't look at this thread then...


I was running grip, rapid fire, fast mags, and an ELO sight and still had a bad time.

Maybe FMJ will help. I usually get 1 burst kills most of the time. If not 1 then 2 bursts. And u can hold down the shoot button, u don't have to tap it in case u didn't know  

Posted by Its_Nanner

Maybe FMJ will help. I usually get 1 burst kills most of the time. If not 1 then 2 bursts. And u can hold down the shoot button, u don't have to tap it in case u didn't know

Fmj is basically useless on smgs, it doesn't give you any extra base damage, just means you can shoot through more walls and you bullets do slightly more damage when they shoot you through a wall than without fmj, but not the full damage.

Because smgs have such low damage, you'd still need like 8bullets to get a kill with fmj shooting through a wall so there is no point even having it.

What he was running was better, since fast mags is probably the best attachment in the game because of how often you see people. Rapid fire isn't really worth it on most guns either, only changes your firerate by like 6% or something on smgs.

Best attachment setup i've found for smgs is fast mags, extended mags, (grip only if you need it) and stock.


If you want the best gun attachment setup then it's KN44 with fast mags, rapid fire, silencer, afterburner, scavenger, blastsuppressor c4 and trophy system.
It's got such high damage that silencer makes really no difference on range kills, c4 is good since you can chuck it and detonate it easily whilst you are shooting so easy double kills, trophy system is really good since you can just throw it into the area you are in, and scavenger means you can keep getting more c4s and trophy systems to throw.  

Posted by Its_Nanner

Maybe FMJ will help. I usually get 1 burst kills most of the time. If not 1 then 2 bursts. And u can hold down the shoot button, u don't have to tap it in case u didn't know

Yeah I'll probably never use it again now that I'm done with it, imo it needs a lil buff to make it really competitive, but then again idk  

Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM

Fmj is basically useless on smgs, it doesn't give you any extra base damage, just means you can shoot through more walls and you bullets do slightly more damage when they shoot you through a wall than without fmj, but not the full damage.

Because smgs have such low damage, you'd still need like 8bullets to get a kill with fmj shooting through a wall so there is no point even having it.

What he was running was better, since fast mags is probably the best attachment in the game because of how often you see people. Rapid fire isn't really worth it on most guns either, only changes your firerate by like 6% or something on smgs.

Best attachment setup i've found for smgs is fast mags, extended mags, (grip only if you need it) and stock.


If you want the best gun attachment setup then it's KN44 with fast mags, rapid fire, silencer, afterburner, scavenger, blastsuppressor c4 and trophy system.
It's got such high damage that silencer makes really no difference on range kills, c4 is good since you can chuck it and detonate it easily whilst you are shooting so easy double kills, trophy system is really good since you can just throw it into the area you are in, and scavenger means you can keep getting more c4s and trophy systems to throw.

Well id like to 1v1 u with me using the pharo and u using the KN then ;D  

I've just finished the Gorgon and moved to the 48 Dredge, and man is this gun godly. It's a 1000+ rpm 6 round burst, and it kicks just enough to get easy headshots.