Posted by Thallen

I pretty much lost all faith in ban histories in general when a GP showed me a screenshot of my history (which was probably illegal of them to do).

Apparently I've been unbanned more times than I've been banned (explain how that's possible), I have like 50+ "boost alerts" and "scam alerts", and I was reset in October 2014 when I had 61k kills and 79k deaths (never happened, never even been negative). No idea what is going on with that, but I can't even apply to be staff due to the way they've **** on my account.

You as staff, would spell certain doom for Classic jk lol
but I feel you man...

lol, does that exist? :p  

Posted by Guri

Have you shared your account with anyone else? Either way, I would suggest submitting a ticket to appeal.

turned down, i'm completely confused.

@Vic as hard as it sounds it's true to be honest.  

No one has responded with a valid reason we can't have evidence yet...  

Posted by Vic

I'm sorry if this is the unpopular opinion, but I find this a little hard to believe.

I believe Asaiki, I used to get tons and I mean tons of bans during the Spring of 2014 (it was honestly probably like 40), for literally no reason. What makes it weird if that almost every single time I would get unbanned between 10 mins to a day without even having to appeal, luckily. To this day, I still have no idea why that ever happened, but fortunately it stopped a little while before that Summer

Even weirder is that somewhat recently an admin looked at my ban history and saw nothing (no bans, unbans, warnings), which makes no sense unless either they were all entirely erased from my history (including unrelated warnings I've gotten) or the admin just wasn't able to see anything.  

I wish I could give an opinion on why evidence should be given. However, every ban I received has been well deserved. The one, single ban that was not correct was fixed before I could finish the appeal.

The only appeals I recall writing are requests of email transfer. I write one roughly every few months.  

Posted by Albie

No one has responded with a valid reason we can't have evidence yet...

there's no logical reason other than it taking too much time or being a process that they can't follow properly  

I've been banned before and I admitted to what I did in my appeal, I was basically saying I thought I deserved an unban but oh well I dealt with that. I guess I did say a rude word to my friend.

But anyway, I've sent this ticket in. I'm pretty sure I've got lots of good points and I'll be damned if I get a copy and pasted message instead of some hard evidence of me 'cheating or hacking'

I was banned whilst sparring. Numerous people saw me and knew I wasn't hacking or cheating, yet someone (I presume an admin) comes out of the blue and bans me.

In no way is this message intended to be offensive or cocky, but after 5000+ spars of experience I'm sure I know more about spar than any/the majority of graal police staff.



Due to this I'd really like to see the evidence of me hacking as myself and numerous other spectators are sure this is a false positive and I've been unreasonably banned.

When I appealed for this before I was given the message "after further review we have decided your ban will not be overturned". Now if you really have reviewed my case further, you must have reviewed something (solid video evidence), as others I were sparring with confirmed they didn't think I was hacking, and these people too have more spar experience than any gp I know of. Basically meaning they know better, again, not meaning to be rude or arrogant.

So could I see what you reviewed further? Or did you not review anything further? If the latter is the case it's clear you don't have evidence and have nothing except the word of someone who, dare I say, has little experience in spar.

If this is the case I don't really see anything my ban can be based on and there is no justified reason for me to be banned for 3 months.



My Graal ID is GXXXXXX

Thanks,

Albie

Please read the whole thing, it might change your mind if you're a kiss up who opposes the idea of providing evidence.  

I think any ban appeal that mentions anything about "the admins" will get a good ol' copy paste answer.  

Posted by Jhenkzi

I think any ban appeal that mentions anything about "the admins" will get a good ol' copy paste answer.

Touche, but I'm pretty sure I haven't seen any gp with +5000 spars of experience  

If you can't get unbanned, there are still many ways to still play Classic on an ALT without another. Use this ban to practice your skill and come back to the account. You have no idea how hard it is to actually get out of this specific ban and no matter what I doubt it'll happen.  

Posted by Jhenkzi

If you can't get unbanned, there are still many ways to still play Classic on an ALT without another. Use this ban to practice your skill and come back to the account. You have no idea how hard it is to actually get out of this specific ban and no matter what I doubt it'll happen.

Yeah but I don't want to do that.
Why should I not be allowed to use my main account because someone goofed and no one's bothered enough to let players with ban records prove themselves right?  

If you really did not do it, you don't need evidence and you'd be unbanned. There is always evidence behind a ban and they don't show it to those who were for security reasons. Deal with the ban, nothing will change it  

Posted by Jhenkzi

If you really did not do it, you don't need evidence and you'd be unbanned. There is always evidence behind a ban and they don't show it to those who were for security reasons. Deal with the ban, nothing will change it

Who are you? If there is evidence, and it's so easy to look at how come I haven't been shown it. And why on earth would it not be shown because of 'security reasons' lol. How on earth would a video of me 'hacking' infringe someone's security
Please stop being so patronizing.  

Just putting out there isn't it same on all graal's server/staff do speedcheck you fail-you get jailed banned. thats proof right there, you failed the system. Although..I'm pretty sure they(staff) only get certain options for banning/jailing(well its like that on ol anyway) so if was just staff doing manually without the speedcheck/hacking then the ban/jail should come up something not as related to speedhack and something like just glitch/hacking-if thats the case then maybe it is questionable.