I'm not sure if this problem can even be "fixed", or if anyone else considers it a problem at all, but recently a lot of people have been killing themselves at 0.5 as a way to "make PKers leave their tower". I've decided to start PKing again, and I have noticed a steady increase in the amount of people that do this. The most popular way people kill themselves is by placing a bomb and hitting it with their lantern to make it blow up instantly. Obviously I don't think the spike mechanics at Sardons or Destiny tower could be changed to prevent people from killing themselves on them, but maybe it's worth changing the whole bomb / lantern thing.

It's really discouraging to put in the effort to get someone to 0.5 just to have them run away and kill themselves. Their apparent goal is to make Pkers leave, but it just makes us stay longer to make up for the kills we lost out on.

Oh, and it's just really ****ing immature and annoying.  

I pmed Dusty about this once before. No idea if it will be changed, but im in agreement. If anything it actually makes pkers pk you for longer, because I often have goals like "200 kills today" or "300 kills today" and it just makes me go longer. I don't mind the spikes at sards or destiny. Fighting in the halls in sardon has always been suicide heaven. But at least on the roof you can swing at the door(can't say how many kills I've gotten doing it). But yeah, still dislike it. At least when they drop the regular bomb you have plenty of time to take them out, and if you can't that is your problem.

Kinda takes the skill(because there is skill in SDing) out of it.  

If anything can possibly make it where if someone kills themselves after being hit by another player within a certain time frame then the last attacker gets the kill.

This can be bypassed though, they'll just have friends kill them. And typically PvP related changes tend to go through Rufus.  

Or make it so bombs won't take you lower than 0.5 if it's yours, idk if that's possible though.  

dont change this its so fun to annoy pkers. Just ask me and GOAT  

I completely agree with you, as Dusty was saying it would be nice if an 'assists' system was introduced, such as 4+ hits on somebody, and then they die results in a kill for you; at the same time, this is completely unfair. A more fair method of 'assists' would be if the last person that hit you got the kill; this would solve suiciding fairly and it would encourage PKing.

In my opinion, lanterns should be banned from towers for this reason: putting a bomb down and using your lantern to kill yourself is very fast and regardless of how close you are to them, it is unlikely that you would be able to kill them: All in all, discouraging PKers is part of the problem in why so many guilds reach 1K so easily.

I would suggest that you make towers sword-only.  

Posted by Nerdmaid

I completely agree with you, as Dusty was saying it would be nice if an 'assists' system was introduced, such as 4+ hits on somebody, and then they die results in a kill for you; at the same time, this is completely unfair.

In my opinion, lanterns should be banned from towers for this reason: putting a bomb down and using your lantern to kill yourself is very fast and regardless of how close you are to them, it is unlikely that you would be able to kill them: All in all, discouraging PKers is part of the problem in why so many guilds reach 1K so easily.

I suggest that you make towers sword-only.

It's a pk zone so bombs and arrows will be enabled just as any other area. If you disable those then whats the point of even having them?  

I modified my post slightly, I guess that's an extreme solution. Bombs and arrows could still be used in overworld.  

Easy solution would be making it so guilds can't damage each other with bombs/arrow but that would be a huge problem as they would bomb/arrow spam attackers knowing they wouldn't be damaged which is OP.

There's no easy fix to the problem, but if you're a decent PKer you should be able to kill them before they get the chance too especially when there's a huge mob. You still get a decent amount of kills even when people do this, possibly make it so if one kills them selves it reduces a kill from their profile? Might make them less likely to do it I dunno.

You could use the most damage done gets the kill system but I think that would have a bigger negative affect on PK'ing than suicide, it seems like most PK'ers are more into the spamming for kills as quick as possible for the high stat.

At the end of the day I don't think it's a major problem, people still rack in thousands of kills a day there are multiple areas to PK in so if you're at Sards and really annoyed with the spike suicides just go somewhere else.  

I'd like the idea of getting assisted suicde kills. That would make PKing Sardons worth my time again, since every guild runs into the spike room at 0.5 nowadays. And it would stop people from being annoying with lanterns.  

Posted by Colin

At the end of the day I don't think it's a major problem, people still rack in thousands of kills a day there are multiple areas to PK in so if you're at Sards and really annoyed with the spike suicides just go somewhere else.

I pk sards because of it's small-ish flag room, and quick route to flag; mod is too large and often too packed for me to enjoy PKing. It's a shame to swap tower simply because of somebody else's spite, and their stubborness to do a 1K without any actual competitivity  

Posted by Colin

At the end of the day I don't think it's a major problem, people still rack in thousands of kills a day there are multiple areas to PK in so if you're at Sards and really annoyed with the spike suicides just go somewhere else.

Lol, and let them get what they want? Towering guilds shouldn't be allowed to AFK in a tower for 1k hours without being contested.

I PK every tower except deadwood, and they all do the same thing. They're afraid of competition.  

Posted by Klay

Lol, and let them get what they want? Towering guilds shouldn't be allowed to AFK in a tower for 1k hours without being contested.

I PK every tower except deadwood, and they all do the same thing. They're afraid of competition.

Just because you aren't getting every single kill doesn't mean you need to stop, they obviously aren't AFKing if they are being reduced to 0.5 health and then killing them selves.

Use this time to push and reach the flag room and PK them there where they can't just go kill them selves, doesn't matter how many times they do it you can still stay there and keep PK'ing.

Part of the problem is the mind set a lot of PK'ers have, you're already getting really easy kills losing a few kills every now and then isn't the end of the world.

They also aren't getting the upper hand, killing them selves won't make you stop attacking so they still have to deal with it and it doesn't make it any easier for them unless the PK'er leaves - just be more persistent than them.  

Yo that's my trademark. I can think of 10+ ways to I'll myself to annoy pkers.  

Posted by Colin

Part of the problem is the mind set a lot of PK'ers have, you're already getting really easy kills losing a few kills every now and then isn't the end of the world.

They also aren't getting the upper hand, killing them selves won't make you stop attacking so they still have to deal with it and it doesn't make it any easier for them unless the PK'er leaves - just be more persistent than them.

We should be more determined, pushing them more towards suicide to make us leave? This seems like a vicious circle. Allegedly Snow and York towers were removed because it was making towering easy, instead you could have simply made it so people were more motivated to attack.

The current amount of towers works well with the amount of players participating in towering- But imagine if you could inspire more people to play, make the game more exciting; I don't see a disadvantage in a 'last hit gets the kill' system?