Posted by Albie

If this site fails, so be it. But at least give it a chance.
You can get original customs and wear them without looking like the rest of graal.

Yes, for about a week before someone gets the file from Graal and uploads it to a free site.  

Posted by Vendetta

Yes, for about a week before someone gets the file from Graal and uploads it to a free site.

Then surely anyone who makes commisioned requests deserves all the hate you're giving this site?  

Posted by Albie

Then surely anyone who makes commisioned requests deserves all the hate you're giving this site?

I'm not giving any hate, I'm just pointing out the obvious flaws in the site that mean it can't work. Anyone can take any head or other file for that matter that's uploaded to Graal, once one person buys the image and uploads it to Graal it's only a matter of time before it gets uploaded to another site where they're free. Once it's freely available you're just wasting your money buying the head from Graal Market.

Also I'm fairly sure that once a file becomes uploaded to GraalOnline it becomes property of Toonslab, wouldn't this make selling the heads illegal once they've been uploaded as Toonslab owns them?  

Posted by Vendetta

I'm not giving any hate, I'm just pointing out the obvious flaws in the site that mean it can't work. Anyone can take any head or other file for that matter that's uploaded to Graal, once one person buys the image and uploads it to Graal it's only a matter of time before it gets uploaded to another site where they're free. Once it's freely available you're just wasting your money buying the head from Graal Market.

Also I'm fairly sure that once a file becomes uploaded to GraalOnline it becomes property of Toonslab, wouldn't this make selling the heads illegal once they've been uploaded as Toonslab owns them?

oh ****  

I don't think that applies here; they sold it before it was Toonslab's property, so what the owner does with it has no further association with the site.

Either way, it's a pretty lame. Was a good concept, just doesn't work too well.  

Posted by Vendetta

Also I'm fairly sure that once a file becomes uploaded to GraalOnline it becomes property of Toonslab, wouldn't this make selling the heads illegal once they've been uploaded as Toonslab owns them?

This gets quoted soo many times. There is no issues between graal market and toonslab/unixmad. I am currently discussing with unixmad how we can reduce cheating and make this a safe place for everyone.  

I mean, the website looks cool, trendy and up to date with the latest web trends but the idea is horrible - no offence. All of the heads on there are just small edits of default heads anyone could do, whether they do graphics work or not. Good on Shiz and Fae for actually making things from scratch. I wonder how much profit you guys have actually made so far (taking in the fact that a lot of time and money was spent making this website).

I doubt this will take off. Kudos to whoever did the logo and the actual art for the website though, it actually looks really professional. Some parallax scrolling would have been nice :p

Posted by Coco

Making a better profit by doing not this

That was a good call :p  

Posted by Howl

I mean, the website looks cool, trendy and up to date with the latest web trends but the idea is horrible - no offence. All of the heads on there are just small edits of default heads anyone could do, whether they do graphics work or not. Good on Shiz and Fae for actually making things from scratch. I wonder how much profit you guys have actually made so far (taking in the fact that a lot of time and money was spent making this website).

I doubt this will take off. Kudos to whoever did the logo and the actual art for the website though, it actually looks really professional. Some parallax scrolling would have been nice :p



Mmmm, "safe".

I only use it for customs to somewhat make a small profit (since my main job pays more,) it's actually somewhat fun.
I actually love the website layout, it has that "smooth" feeling to it, looks sexy.  

Posted by Howl

Mmmm, "safe".

what are you implying here? please elaborate.  

Please accept me as a vendor  

Posted by SoulSlayer

what are you implying here? please elaborate.

I don't see how it can get any safer, lol. I mean, it doesn't look stingy at all. I just feel that if something is tied in with Graal Depot it is usually pretty shady. But hey, it looks great. Just as a business idea though, you'd make more money out of genuine heads made from scratch rather than just edits.  

Posted by Albie

Please accept me as a vendor

Im sure i have sent you an email. please reply to it.

Posted by Albie

Please accept me as a vendor

Im sure i have sent you an email. please reply to it.

Posted by Howl

I don't see how it can get any safer, lol. I mean, it doesn't look stingy at all. I just feel that if something is tied in with Graal Depot it is usually pretty shady. But hey, it looks great.

Of course, you guys are just whining because its just connected to graaldepot. That is the only reason. if it wasn't, it would be a whole different story. well im not here to scam anyone or be "shady". I just want to provide a serious service . If you don't want it to let it happen then, fine by me.  

Posted by SoulSlayer

Of course, you guys are just whining because its just connected to graaldepot. That is the only reason. if it wasn't, it would be a whole different story. well im not here to scam anyone or be "shady". I just want to provide a serious service . If you don't want it to let it happen then, fine by me.

Why is it connected to Graal Depot anyway? It'd do better as a separate business and more people would be favourable of it too in my opinion. Only thing I can say is just take feedback from those who actually care about giving it, it will help a lot.  

Posted by Howl

Why is it connected to Graal Depot anyway? It'd do better as a separate business and more people would be favourable of it too in my opinion. Only thing I can say is just take feedback from those who actually care about giving it, it will help a lot.

This service was created to fix a lot of the problems Graal Depot had in the first place, there may still be tiny loop holes, but overall it gives the artist credit for their work.

Also, just because you don't like someones "edit", doesn't mean someone else won't. Overall I want to thank the developers of Graal Market for giving me a platform for me to provide graphics where I get some credit - rather than no credit at all - for my graphics which I would like to share for others to enjoy.  

Posted by Howl

Why is it connected to Graal Depot anyway? It'd do better as a separate business and more people would be favourable of it too in my opinion. Only thing I can say is just take feedback from those who actually care about giving it, it will help a lot.

Why is it connected? because i own graaldepot... that's how it's connected..

Well i could of released it without having it any connections to graaldepot and have a different persona to act behind it. But in the end it's going to be owned both by me.