I've notice that there are several players inside and outside the battle arena using slight speed hacks to extremely ridiculous speed hacks while pking/sparring and NOT being CAUGHT.
Why not implement a few patrol staff? I mean letting someone who's speed hacking to knock people off of their streak inside the mixed room is highly unacceptable and looked down upon. Especially when a player has this in their status hoping they will get caught "I am not speed hacker my computer has no virus it fast" (yes a cheating player legitimately has that in their status) It needs to be monitored more often in my opinion I know a tonne of old sparrers and pkers who would volunteer for this immediately. I mean we can't just let these players get an unfair advantage over others using illegal means.  

I will agree that I have been seeing more of this lately, and it is kind of annoying.

The problem is that it's pretty hard to tell (especially if someone is increasing their speed incrementally). Tests on the players speed would have to be done, in which case they could always turn off whatever they're using and pass. They could also always just outright refuse to take the test, since nobody can really force anyone to do something like that on graal. A speed detection system was implemented a while ago which was doling out false positives, rendering it ineffective.

I personally wouldn't trust many "known" sparrers and PKers to police it, since ego and blah blah blah gets in the way. I'd rather have Admins spectate spars relatively often and see if anything is fishy. I know I've reported the really obvious speed hackers (flying across the arena in a second) to admins and they've gone unnoticed about 85% of the time.

I'm stumped on the whole issue, honestly.  

Posted by David

I will agree that I have been seeing more of this lately, and it is kind of annoying.

The problem is that it's pretty hard to tell (especially if someone is increasing their speed incrementally). Tests on the players speed would have to be done, in which case they could always turn off whatever they're using and pass. They could also always just outright refuse to take the test, since nobody can really force anyone to do something like that on graal. A speed detection system was implemented a while ago which was doling out false positives, rendering it ineffective.

I personally wouldn't trust many "known" sparrers and PKers to police it, since ego and blah blah blah gets in the way. I'd rather have Admins spectate spars relatively often and see if anything is fishy. I know I've reported the really obvious speed hackers (flying across the arena in a second) to admins and they've gone unnoticed about 85% of the time.

I'm stumped on the whole issue, honestly.

I'm stumped as well the staff treat it like theres no possible fix for it.  

The problem is that the server trust the data from the client.  

if we had a spar patrol squad admin position
I would volenteer for that for I lost many good streaks over hackers , one guy had a nukeshot.  

I will volunteer too, just as a forgiveness due to my "bad behavior" on some occasions.  

Admins aren't always online, and detecting whether or not someone is speed hacking is not always easy. Sometimes it's obvious, other times it's difficult to tell.  

Posted by David

A speed detection system was implemented a while ago which was doling out false positives, rendering it ineffective.

As long as it isn't automatically banning players then that shouldn't make it a problem. All it has to do is send a message to RC in an external tab, staff can quite easily warp to the player and see if they are speed hacking or not.  

A speed tester would be good eg if you're going faster than normal, an admin teleports to you. If you are truly hacking then you get a ban? idk  

how about a warning ahd banning them the use of spar rooms  

Posted by Vendetta

As long as it isn't automatically banning players then that shouldn't make it a problem. All it has to do is send a message to RC in an external tab, staff can quite easily warp to the player and see if they are speed hacking or not.

Problem is that people speed hack in spars at small intervals that are not really trusted as "detectable" by eye, so a scripted system is really the only way
It's very hard to come up with something that doesn't show false positives though  

I think classic has an FPS cap.Make a script so that if someone exceeds the FPS cap then the system would automatically ban him/her.  

Posted by OG

I've notice that there are several players inside and outside the battle arena using slight speed hacks to extremely ridiculous speed hacks while pking/sparring and NOT being CAUGHT.
Why not implement a few patrol staff? I mean letting someone who's speed hacking to knock people off of their streak inside the mixed room is highly unacceptable and looked down upon. Especially when a player has this in their status hoping they will get caught "I am not speed hacker my computer has no virus it fast" (yes a cheating player legitimately has that in their status) It needs to be monitored more often in my opinion I know a tonne of old sparrers and pkers who would volunteer for this immediately. I mean we can't just let these players get an unfair advantage over others using illegal means.

Problem is even if they get banned , they make a new email account and come back with a noob account , even with a ip bann they come back when they change the proxy settings in the web browser(on pc) . There are always ways to evade(to avoid) banns  

Posted by MBK

I think classic has an FPS cap.Make a script so that if someone exceeds the FPS cap then the system would automatically ban him/her.

which can cause false positive ban due to excessive lag I get from my computer. (not gaming ;-;)  

Doesn't it shows up on RC when someone goes too fast??