Posted by Rufus

1 level of people outside / 3 levels inside = 1 level's worth of people spread between 3 levels..

graal cities more than 1 level. its at least 6. and the other levels are also much smaller. keep graal city, and a few other select areas non pk, then the rest make pk and id be happy.  

The easiest way to get PKs currently, is go to Mod and sword spam or spam arrows.
And if you're 0.5 you can just run out and get full health, I'd love for Graal city to be a PK zone, The AFKers can just move inside.  

I like this idea a lot. It would be nice to see everyone spread out, instead of just being in graal city.  

since it seemed it got lost in the arguement ill repost it,

ive figured out a possible system that will satisfy both sides,

Make it so the insides of building are no pk, but make the railroad go to all the major areas of the map in a big loop, but at a end point the rail roads go to the train station (train shop in York bay) where you automatically dismount the draisine/ get off the train and have a train that goes round the loop that you can get on, (each player riding the train shows up as a boxcar with their characters head and hat ( like cars on era)

While on a draisine or train you can't get pked, but you can't lag it up because every time you get to the train station you get off, in a pk area so you can't afk at the train station after you get off,

This gives a way for players to get from town to town without having to be harrased, but still allows almost all the gmap to be pk. It's a way to cut down lag too, and adds a incentive to buy a draisine. (so you dont need to wait for the train to come around)

As Rufus pointed out pkers can't be outside all the houses on the gmap, so make it so the unstick me takes you to a random building on the gmap, so players coming from unstick me will be dispersed to no pk buildings all over, instead of just the spawn area.  

I still don't see how Graal City is used for people who socialize when half of them are pervs asking for girl's pictures,Asking people to join their guild,etc..I still say make everything a PK Zone it's time for change for the people who don't like it can just go inside a safe area and socialize there easy as that.  

Posted by Gambit Drakul

I still don't see how Graal City is used for people who socialize when half of them are pervs asking for girl's pictures,Asking people to join their guild,etc..I still say make everything a PK Zone it's time for change for the people who don't like it can just go inside a safe area and socialize there easy as that.

People need to realize adopting a "things should be made this way, people who don't like it can just go somewhere else" mindset will never get anything changed and will only upset the other side and make them adopt a " things should stay this way and if you don't like it you can go somewhere else" mindset, if you don't try to compromise nothing will happen other than a dead end arguement.  

Posted by EP

Also there if there were less No pk zones there would be less lag such as graal city.I can't walk around graal city without my iPod slowing down trying to load all the afk's and I'm on a 4g iPod. A Pk zone would force them all to crowd into burger refuge an houses around them making it free to walk around with no lag.

This-^

I am completely for this idea.  

Posted by Gambit Drakul

I still don't see how Graal City is used for people who socialize when half of them are pervs asking for girl's pictures,Asking people to join their guild,etc..I still say make everything a PK Zone it's time for change for the people who don't like it can just go inside a safe area and socialize there easy as that.

Let them have graal city. Is everywhere but graal city and balamb honestly not enough room for you to pk? There should be an area on the gmap where people can go to hang out without getting pked. While I don't like the peres that's the way it is. And you can't really change it now. There's 400 people sitting in graal city like "JOIN MY GUILD" or "RATE MAH PIC!". Then all of the sudden news is updated like oh btw you can pk anywhere you want now. All hell would break loose. And transitioning everyone from inside to outside isn't all that much of a change for the good. Graal definitely needs to become more pker friendly, but we also need to think about players who come here to chat, and so on.  

You could tell everyone a week prior to the change that poops going to hit the fan. That's more than enough time for regular players to move to specified areas that will support no pk. For people who like outdoors a unused portion of some where close could be turned into a new burger town like area.  

Posted by Godzilla

Let them have graal city. Is everywhere but graal city and balamb honestly not enough room for you to pk? There should be an area on the gmap where people can go to hang out without getting pked. While I don't like the peres that's the way it is. And you can't really change it now. There's 400 people sitting in graal city like "JOIN MY GUILD" or "RATE MAH PIC!". Then all of the sudden news is updated like oh btw you can pk anywhere you want now. All hell would break loose. And transitioning everyone from inside to outside isn't all that much of a change for the good. Graal definitely needs to become more pker friendly, but we also need to think about players who come here to chat, and so on.

Yea but what would you prefer a fun less laggy game still balanced or a laggy game where all u can do is talk and u have to cross the whole map to get a couple of kills  

Posted by EP

Yea but what would you prefer a fun less laggy game still balanced or a laggy game where all u can do is talk and u have to cross the whole map to get a couple of kills

Exactly!See this guy gets the point  

agree, ALL gmap should be pk, makes no sence, the burger refugde is selling healing dounts. and most places offer FREE health like 'eggnog' and 'coco' wtf is the ponit for selling/giveing health if there isnt **** for pk zones? i doubt that the whole gmap will become pk but *fingers crossed* or at VERY lest bring back all the other pk zones.  

They also add nopk zones on all the rps npc, if you get hit while rps'ing you have to restart graal to get your sword back... Be they can easily fix that by making you (paused) while playing rps.

Posted by Rufus

Uhh.. This isn't a one level server. Look at the picture I've attached.

Your nopk zones are very wierd shapes... If you made them all the same size (single level size) you'd probably be covering twice as much of the map as you are atm:/ and I hate that even if a single tile of a building goes into a second level they make the whole level a nopk zone...

And then they could make it so if you get disconnected cuz u didn't move, you get teleported to a random building, to stop massive amount of afkers in city...  

I definitely would like more pk zones . Raise my 6k pks to 10k :/  

Idk if anyone posted this but i find its not the pks really brought numbers down it was vip. Ok think about it this way Pc is easily hacked as shown through cheatengine. So more hacks require admins patching and when admins patched the hacks it messed with things such as farming and everyone can deny this but there is a whole fashion society- eg. Famous hat chasers, modellig guilds... Etc gfx and what does it all cost money. As they say money makes the world go round but how can we keep enjoying the fun of buying when it takes too log to even farm. Also fb so cheap woth towers whats point classic when you can do same in one month on fb its jut pointless. this also brongs the unfairness and limits of an ipod vs pc its reslly should never mix and many games don't mix a pc version with ipod. scrap fb its causing all the trouble. So why say allthis junk? well the admins needed patch the bombs cause of cheatengine (another fb/pc flaw). well we all see it now bombs do nothing its useless now in pks and so has the pk list dropped. its noticeable as only maybe top5 get past 1k a day. bombs brought the pkers. I sound like a noob bomb spammer complaining but its coincidence or l not but pks have dropped overall. And i do agree but i don't think its the non-pk zones reason i reckon its fb's fault.