Posted by Yephenpeace

Long story short, they should add more pk zones.

Not add more pk zones that would be like the "pk center" a fail. They née to take the old no pk zones and make them pk  

Posted by EP

Not add more pk zones that would be like the "pk center" a fail. They née to take the old no pk zones and make them pk

Lol... Maybe you should read this thread.  

Well if you ask me, I want everwhere to be like MoD  

Posted by Higbey

Graals unstick my area should never be pk, assholes would just lame there, and if you make the no pk area smaller you'll just concentrate them all in a smaller area, and the insides of building would be spammed.

Unless a timer based thing or a grace period system is added I dont see how it can change without making more problems..

Saying "unstick me" takes me to the closest inside level.  

Posted by Yephenpeace

Long story short, they should add more pk zones.

Ya I mean, it's only a game about swords and bombs and stuff! What were we thinking being able to actually use them!?

And no, AFKers should not be protected. AFKers are a bane on any server. All they do is idle to collect meaningless numbers and lag the server for the rest of the players. If Graal City is where the majority of people afk, then by God open the ****ing PK drawbridge and let the PKers have at them.

Also, I have never played the iPhone servers but I doubt that 100% of the server PKs. Like you said, a majority of players AFK and some idle. I don't see how it'd be that hectic, no more hectic than trying to navigate through Graal city when you can't see the ground and with a framerate of 1-2/s. If you have a problem avoiding PKers when you want to travel find alternative routes.  

Posted by Yephenpeace

Lol... Maybe you should read this thread.

I have been I've read every post on this thread this topic is important to me and I see both sides of it  

You'd just have the afkers in whatever nopk part of graal city is left and you'd have even more lag, and you'd have borderguarders camping at the edges on the nopk zones keeping players in, and people waiting outside doors like what happens on zodiac. I remember how assholes would harass newbies as soon as they leave balamb and got on the dock, and the people that would wait at the bottom of the unstick me and kill people trying to get into the zone...

Without a timer system there's no real solution that doesn't just cause more problems.  

i boycot this. its gonna limit my chances of cybering.  

Posted by Higbey

You'd just have the afkers in whatever nopk part of graal city is left and you'd have even more lag, and you'd have borderguarders camping at the edges on the nopk zones keeping players in, and people waiting outside doors like what happens on zodiac. I remember how assholes would harass newbies as soon as they leave balamb and got on the dock, and the people that would wait at the bottom of the unstick me and kill people trying to get into the zone...

Without a timer system there's no real solution that doesn't just cause more problems.

You keep saying there's potential problems, but you haven't actually outlined any VALID ones. I don't see what problems making the overworld a PK zone, or increasing the amount of PK zones in general, would cause. There wouldn't be any additional lag as people would be more spread out. Camping is something that happens on every server, and we have 3hp and healing items. This isn't like Zodiac where people are levelled differently, so I don't see how that could ever be comparable.  

Posted by Rufus

Saying "unstick me" takes me to the closest inside level.

Then won't people just lame out there? I mean, yea you should fight back and stuff, but when you've got a swarm harrassing players it's just gonna be annoying as hell,

Even when someone's as good as you at spar, even you can't leave a building when there's 20 players all spamming sword trying to escape or pk, it's no longer the noble way of fighting one on one, now people rely on harrasment and abuse of borders, imagine what it would be like with it all pk and this many players..

I think a grace period/timer system should be added before graal city becomes pk.  

Posted by Higbey

Then won't people just lame out there? I mean, yea you should fight back and stuff, but when you've got a swarm harrassing players it's just gonna be annoying as hell,

Even when someone's as good as you at spar, even you can't leave a building when there's 20 players all spamming sword trying to escape or pk, it's no longer the noble way of fighting one on one, now people rely on harrasment and abuse of borders, imagine what it would be like with it all pk and this many players..

I think a grace period/timer system should be added before graal city becomes pk.

Uhh.. This isn't a one level server. Look at the picture I've attached. If you believe there are going to be 20 people camping outside of every single house on the overworld then I think you probably overstate what player killing is about. I am not against a grace period, but it isn't possible under the current circumstances on Classic.  

I think part of the reason most areas are non-PK areas is the fact the we cannot pause willingly. On this server, you cannot press P to pause like you can on PC servers. AFK will never be safe. I agree, some parts should be reconsidered, and possibly a vote may help sort this out.  

Posted by Shannon

I think part of the reason most areas are non-PK areas is the fact the we cannot pause willingly. On this server, you cannot press P to pause like you can on PC servers. AFK will never be safe. I agree, some parts should be reconsidered, and possibly a vote may help sort this out.

Fk pause that's for pussis>:O would just cause ppl to pause at .5 even at towers  

Considering there is dispute on a thread with well under 20 people involved shows that there will be widespread complaining if the whole map was a pk zone again. There absolutely was problems when this was done and unless you were there to witness it, you can't really argue. Lets focus more on the idea of more pk zones, rather than everywhere being open pk, because that wouldn't appease to a lot of people. I think the third map Rufus showed would be perfect, aside from some areas with shops that should be red.  

Posted by Rufus

Problem is worse than I thought.

Picture 1. Current situation on Classic
Picture 2. What I dream for
Picture 3. What I'd settle with

i completely agree except add small circles near nexus, revolution, and the deadwood party place. that would make a perfect game imo. and maybe protect players from pk with 5 hours or less.