Posted by Sardon

To answer its


Gp's can do whatever bs to you they want and xor or toonslab wont give a **** about it.

But they do, they just can't notice everything every admin does...
They do care and notice sometimes - that's why a lot of admins are fired.  

Why is it possible to get unbanned?  

 

Posted by Seanster

Read what I said

How does that explain why the title is "multiple bans."?  

Posted by Common Sense

How does that explain why the title is "multiple bans."?

A GP will review your log record prior to banning you. If within a small time frame you have been warned + banned several times, then the GP has the possibility to increase your ban time by giving the "multiple bans" reason. Think of it as Graal's version of the Three-strikes law. The only difference is that it takes many more minor ban infractions on Graal before receiving the Multiple Bans reason. Anyway, those who receive these bans shouldn't be defended.  

Posted by Finley

A GP will review your log record prior to banning you. If within a small time frame you have been warned + banned several times, then the GP has the possibility to increase your ban time by giving the "multiple bans" reason. Think of it as Graal's version of the Three-strikes law. The only difference is that it takes many more minor ban infractions on Graal before receiving the Multiple Bans reason. Anyway, those who receive these bans shouldn't be defended.

thank you.  

Posted by Finley

A GP will review your log record prior to banning you. If within a small time frame you have been warned + banned several times, then the GP has the possibility to increase your ban time by giving the "multiple bans" reason. Think of it as Graal's version of the Three-strikes law. The only difference is that it takes many more minor ban infractions on Graal before receiving the Multiple Bans reason. Anyway, those who receive these bans shouldn't be defended.

And if you haven't done anything?  

Posted by Finley

Anyway, those who receive these bans shouldn't be defended.

because the player-run staff community of Graal has never made a single mistake LOL
preach on, brother  

Posted by Thallen

because the player-run staff community of Graal has never made a single mistake LOL
preach on, brother

Ayy lmao  

Posted by NM

But they do, they just can't notice everything every admin does...
They do care and notice sometimes - that's why a lot of admins are fired.

im just saying that toonslab never reads carefully your tickets.I got a head deleted for no reason and toonslab answers Try not uploading things you know will be deleted

How should I know i have had the same head months.

Posted by Finley

A GP will review your log record prior to banning you. If within a small time frame you have been warned + banned several times, then the GP has the possibility to increase your ban time by giving the "multiple bans" reason. Think of it as Graal's version of the Three-strikes law. The only difference is that it takes many more minor ban infractions on Graal before receiving the Multiple Bans reason. Anyway, those who receive these bans shouldn't be defended.

I want a Court lvl in graal in which you can contest your ban in person with a graal police member as judge

No lawyers.

That idea sounds like a joke but I am serious.Sending tickets to toonslab is not satisfying for players.
They preffer chatting with Staff members about it and since they do not want you to chat about it to staff you can chat about it in the graal court room

This will elliminate the large percentage of graalians who quit when banned.  

Why can't the person or staff reviewing the ticket provide logs or specific details for your problem and/or question? It's always a broad answer being replied with no evidence to ensure what the player has done wrong or any support to "help".  

Posted by Common Sense

And if you haven't done anything?

Appeal. Odds are you just had a linked account with someone who did.

Posted by Thallen

because the player-run staff community of Graal has never made a single mistake LOL
preach on, brother

You're right. In the past year, we have seen plenty of staff come and go.
Some were fired for rigging events in favour of their friends, others for idling in the city rather than patrolling the map. I've seen one go after he gave the lengthiest ban time to his main account as his final move to quit this game. Some go after disagreements with other staff members. Quite a few simply resign as they have higher priorities in their lives.

What I haven't seen within those years was someone getting fired for wrongfully banning a player. Hypothetically, I can imagine thousands of possible scenarios where a player-run staff could take advantage of their given powers. That being said, banning innocent players is a not an issue until we have some factual proof to support it.

Summary: Staff power abuse is real. Staff wrongfully banning players could be real. It's a non issue until it actually happens and someone is fired for it.  

Staff abusing powers is Not just real But common
My friend was banned for 2 weeks For no reason.

Typicaly power abuse is commited by some gp which are not as popular or well known

High Well known Gp tend not to do that Often.  

Posted by Sardon

Staff abusing powers is Not just real But common
My friend was banned for 2 weeks For no reason.
.

And yet this is a tale I've heard one time too many.
The speck of evidence we have to sustain this argument is "my friend was banned for no reason"
"Zinnia issued a multiple ban to ... whereas ... never previously received a ban"
"TD gave a third infraction solicitation ban to ... when he was towering"
"Brick was fired for banning ... for hacking when he was offline"

Detailed verifiable examples is all I'm asking for.  

Posted by Finley

That being said, banning innocent players is a non-issue until we have some factual proof and cases where it has happened in recent years.

inb4 i know an innocent player who was wrongfully banned/my friend didn't do anything and he was banned

EDIT: Ah I was too slow