Posted by Ash Ketchum

Um? The guy is complaining that its the servers fault for not having a stable latency. Having a stable internet would mean that his latency wouldn't increase and decrease so rapidly like that.

LETS ALL BLAME THE SERVER! BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY OUR CHEAP INTERNET ISN'T AT FAULT! smh

This server isnt verry stable but when more people are on this server and especialy when alot of people are in one area in a server it laggs any player would know that like when a new update comes out you keep getting disconected even if you have 4 full bars and wifi nobody else is using your still lagging
if many people are at one spot will make even the people with top wifi lag badly
If that doesnt convince you wait a few days till christmas so you can see g4g lag begin!  

Sardon, you're new to these forums (I think?), so I'll explain: Ash Ketchum (Simple-Z in game) is a player who does not even actively spar, yet constantly interferes with these threads and fills them with anger, false information, etc.
He has proven time and time again that he isn't intelligent enough to understand how basic mechanics of Graal work, such as hit detection, delay, etc.

I'm pretty sure there was even a thread where he made some claim that Japanese sparrers only delay because so many people in Japan are on the internet at the same time. He later insisted that he doesn't delay, despite living in Australia, because he has "good internet."
These are just a few examples. I'm sure there are many more in this thread, but I can only read the part which you've just quoted (which is hilariously stupid).

If you want to have a better forum experience, you should not waste your time acknowledging him - even better is to do what I did a while ago and just add him to your ignore list. Really, talking with him about sparring is like asking a blind guy what the Mona Lisa looks like.

Don't waste your time, friend. He isn't a representation of what iClassic's sparring community is like. Very few on these forums are, actually. Spar threads are actively stalked by sad people like this. Their sole purpose is to try to derail these threads and I suspect it's because they are bad at sparring and very angsty about it. It's unfortunate, but very easy to avoid.  

Australian internet is good now, they recently installed new internet cables.  

Posted by Thallen

Sardon, you're new to these forums (I think?), so I'll explain: Ash Ketchum (Simple-Z Zedjawiz (add me) in game) is a player who does not even actively spar, yet constantly interferes with these threads and fills them with anger, false information, etc.
He has proven time and time again that he isn't intelligent enough to understand how basic mechanics of Graal work, such as hit detection, delay, etc.

I'm pretty sure there was even a thread where he made some claim that Japanese sparrers only delay because so many people in Japan are on the internet at the same time. He later insisted that he doesn't delay, despite living in Australia, because he has "good internet."
These are just a few examples. I'm sure there are many more in this thread, but I can only read the part which you've just quoted (which is hilariously stupid).

If you want to have a better forum experience, you should not waste your time acknowledging him - even better is to do what I did a while ago and just add him to your ignore list. Really, talking with him about sparring is like asking a blind guy what the Mona Lisa looks like.

Don't waste your time, friend. He isn't a representation of what iClassic's sparring community is like. Very few on these forums are, actually. Spar threads are actively stalked by sad people like this. Their sole purpose is to try to derail these threads and I suspect it's because they are bad at sparring and very angsty about it. It's unfortunate, but very easy to avoid.

You have no idea how much more i know than you. You're a worthless pile of Graal trash that probably thinks 90 to 350ms causes a player to delay. What does hit detection even have to do with this topic? lmao.
Ya, btw, at least we have stable internet here in Australia, mister 260ms to 190ms in 20 seconds. Blame player population that your internet can't reach the server fast enough, LOL!

population the same
*Ping of 260ms*
(20 seconds later)
population the same
*ping of 190ms*
*Blames server for unstable ping*
???

If it was really the servers fault, your ping wouldn't dramatically change like that. Your ping would be around 260ms (the first test). The server isn't some laggy **** hole when theres over 3000 players.
- From a person who 24/7 the Halloween event with Australian internet  

Posted by Thallen

Sardon, you're new to these forums (I think?), so I'll explain: Ash Ketchum (Simple-Z in game) is a player who does not even actively spar, yet constantly interferes with these threads and fills them with anger, false information, etc.
He has proven time and time again that he isn't intelligent enough to understand how basic mechanics of Graal work, such as hit detection, delay, etc.

I'm pretty sure there was even a thread where he made some claim that Japanese sparrers only delay because so many people in Japan are on the internet at the same time. He later insisted that he doesn't delay, despite living in Australia, because he has "good internet."
These are just a few examples. I'm sure there are many more in this thread, but I can only read the part which you've just quoted (which is hilariously stupid).

If you want to have a better forum experience, you should not waste your time acknowledging him - even better is to do what I did a while ago and just add him to your ignore list. Really, talking with him about sparring is like asking a blind guy what the Mona Lisa looks like.

Don't waste your time, friend. He isn't a representation of what iClassic's sparring community is like. Very few on these forums are, actually. Spar threads are actively stalked by sad people like this. Their sole purpose is to try to derail these threads and I suspect it's because they are bad at sparring and very angsty about it. It's unfortunate, but very easy to avoid.

Thnx for the advice  

*Laggers starts putting Ash ketchum in ignore list*  

Posted by Ash Ketchum

Um? The guy is complaining that its the servers fault for not having a stable latency. Having a stable internet would mean that his latency wouldn't increase and decrease so rapidly like that.

LETS ALL BLAME THE SERVER! BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY OUR CHEAP INTERNET ISN'T AT FAULT! smh

Yeah it would, I used to get the same problems during GST and I'm sitting on 100/100 Swedish internet (which, for those unaware, is known to be among the best). I'm not sure where they host the servers nowadays, if it's west coast then ~170ms is normal from Sweden. East coast is around 105ms and Texas is 140ms.  

Posted by Crono

Yeah it would, I used to get the same problems during GST and I'm sitting on 100/100 Swedish internet (which, for those unaware, is known to be among the best).

'used'. I'm sure the servers are better now  

Posted by Ash Ketchum

'used'. I'm sure the servers are better now

I'll try later on today when there's 3.5k on.  

Posted by Crono

I'll try later on today when there's 3.5k on.

Try now and see if your ping is stable with the players currently on and then test it on the 3.5k.

Make sure when you test, no one is using your internet. Also do it in a 10 second time frame like Thallen  

Posted by Comyt

if you dont want to spar someone with ridiculous lag, just leave them alone. nobody can harass you for avoiding them because realistically, nobody enjoys sparring these people.

I love sparring laggers, delayers. I spar anyone. I like the difficulty of fighting someone who warps, or delays. It also helps you become better at spar.  

Posted by Sardon

Thnx for the advice

I would take that with a grain of salt. This is the same guy that resorts to name calling after being owned in a argument or pretends he has people on the ignore list.

The same guy that said he had never played iClassic before the FB server came out when I brought up his 4k-2k device spar account. Later on he claimed that he used to afk in the resort with his idevice.

The same guy that claimed he had no idea who xenthic was only to be exposed by the GOAT about naming xenthic the top pkr on a earlier thread.


The same guy that argued for over 20 pages that pc players had no advantage over iOS players. I claimed pc players were faster and I was openly mocked because I didn't know the "FPS" cap made that impossible. Just to see him say that his friend David was incredibly "fast" when he over clocked or did something to his pc. He was so fast he got banned for speed hacking. SHOCKING


if only I had this attention to detail in school :"""""(
HI EZ  

Just quit spar like I did xP  

Posted by Hikaru

I love sparring laggers, delayers. I spar anyone. I like the difficulty of fighting someone who warps, or delays. It also helps you become better at spar.

Thats true spar

All that negative positive stat stuff can burn in hell  

Posted by Hikaru

I love sparring laggers, delayers. I spar anyone. I like the difficulty of fighting someone who warps, or delays. It also helps you become better at spar.

true
I hate sparring them, can only enjoy fast and responsive spars with lots of juking and reacting

doesn't mean I'm going to cry and complain though, I just won't spar them where I don't have to

Posted by Howlgraal

Australian internet is good now, they recently installed new internet cables.

nice, but come back to me as soon as Australia develops the technology to transmit data faster than the speed of light, because Australians will still ping 3 figures to the US until that happens

Posted by Crono

I'll try later on today when there's 3.5k on.

but he's sure of it