Okay, i know i already posted something about androids entering the idevice gst but apparently no administrator cared to even glance at it. SO here i am to let out my emotions and feelings towards the discussion of androids and idevices. FIRSTLY, as i previously said in my last post androids move & play EXACTLY like an idevice. So every idiotic **** who only says no to androids participating in idev gst are just mad because they cant move their thumbs on their ipod like i can on an android. C'mon buddy, go fly a kite. Secondly, let's settle the discussion with using external devices to play graal. Computers, keypads, controllers are the first to come to mind. Okay, this excuse to not put androids in the mobile classification is pretty much pointless because you can never be sure who is using what to play. Anything is possible and with the new ios7 update, 3rd party extensions are more easily enabled. SO ANYONE & i mean anyone can use something else other than your standard arrow keys. YET, most of the players are kids like cmon iclassic no one is going to go to that extent for an event held on a game.

Androids emulators (EMU's) don't work for graal. Name your software none of them work. NONE AT ALL. So stop complaining and making excuses as to why androids shouldnt be allowed. I'd be more comfortable with just having a seperate tournament for androids if thats how bad these babies complain about a device the same as theirs lmao. Just shows how idiotic this community full of nincapoops is. Androids move & look & talk & walk & PLAY LIKE A FREAKIN IPHONE NOT LIKE A FREAKIN PC. SO WHY PLACE ANDROIDS WITH PCS. I also may be ahead of myself. Maybe androids will be allowed but the staff hasn't told us yet. If thats the case then just wow... pretty stupid to let us androids know last minute which wouldn't surprise me. If androids aren't allowed this gst i swear
this staff has some serious issues. Not one staff member could answer my simple question, will androids be allowed to enter idev gst? Apparently xor nor stefan could process the question that is in plain english. So xor might as well take off the sign in your house "pm me in game for your graal related questions." #Androids4iDevgst2013.

Thanks to everyone who has supported this along the way and even if this staff cant figure out that an android feels and can play like idevices i appreciate the support. Help me out guys & other android players as well !!! Androids shouldnt spar against pcs... Lets make this happen !  

After reading this thread, I want Androids Devices to be not able to participate in any GST.

Your choose of words and the choose of capital letters and even words (...) makes you look like an idiot, and your point isn't as 'clean' as it could be. Why didn't you just start a discussion without sounding like a ****?

Anyways, before answering this I would like to know if Skyrider is able to spar in the Facebook-only room, if someone knows.  

Posted by PumaD

After reading this thread, I want Androids Devices to be not able to participate in any GST.

Your choose of words and the choose of capital letters and even words (...) makes you look like an idiot, and your point isn't as 'clean' as it could be. Why didn't you just start a discussion without sounding like a ****?

Anyways, before answering this I would like to know if Skyrider is able to spar in the Facebook-only room, if someone knows.

Aren't you the same kid who hated on another one of my posts? You're opinion is pretty much irrelvant & an apparent waste of time so you can go ahead & bag because my vocabulary didnt meet your satisfaction kid. :* Comment when you understand the purpose of this thread.  

Ok.  

tl;dr  

Posted by Blood

Comment when you understand the purpose of this thread.

Is this "the purpose of this thread"?

Posted by Blood

PLAY LIKE A FREAKIN IPHONE NOT LIKE A FREAKIN PC. SO WHY PLACE ANDROIDS WITH PCS.
Androids shouldnt spar against pcs...

 

Everyone can recognize that it's not completely fair to put androids against PCs. It's not fair to put iDevices up against Androids either, since they can use external keyboards. It seems like this issue will probably resolved based on population:

- Either android users or iDevice users will be unhappy.
- There are more iDevices users than Android.
- Android users get the short stick because there's less of them.

As far as Android emulators go, the very first and only one I've tried before called "Bluestacks" works quite well, so yes, Android emulators do work and would probably be a concern if dumped with iDevices.  

I feel your pain, Blood, if I was an Android user like yourself. Except you need to understand players can use keyboards w/Android. My proof is FloridaOrange (Helsing), whom stated he was using his keyboard w/an Andoid. It's not that anyone is scared/threatened, there just need to be in order in the GST. iDev vs. iDev, Mixed vs Mixed. Throwing Android in is popularity wise, if majority of the server want this change, it WILL happen. How you think " Mixed GST" came about? Blood, just play on an iDevice for this upcoming tournament.  

Personally, my cell phone is an android. Although I use it often, I cannot spar at all. Whenever i want to spar, I whip out the old ipod. The buttons are more ideal, and not resized to fit the Android's screen. Even though I do use Android mainly, I do not mind the exclusion of these devices.  

Posted by Xavier

As far as Android emulators go, the very first and only one I've tried before called "Bluestacks" works quite well, so yes, Android emulators do work and would probably be a concern if dumped with iDevices.

BlueStacks does not work with Graal, nor does any public and free Android emulator. Try it yourself. Manymo, YouWave, etc. The only one I know of that I've not tried is the actual Android SDK, and I wouldn't be surprised if the app fails to open with that.

Do people actually think PC players are going to emulate Android just to enter a different GST? No thanks. I think I speak for the majority when I say I'd rather not be a part of that dramatic and laggy mess.
Mixed GST: "GG, was fun!"
iDevice GST: "OMFG LAGGY HISPANIC FRENCH IDIOT THIS IS AN OUTRAGE REPORT AND GET ALL BANNED ALSO BOYCOTT BATTLE ARENA I'M 12 SPARRING IS DED"

Anyway, Androids should be allowed in a mobile tournament. This fear of keyboards is old news. I can use a bluetooth keyboard on my iPod, have done it before. Just because it's possible doesn't mean people are going to do it out of desperation. The Mixed GST is less competitive than the iDevice GST anyway. Why would anyone using an Android want to make it harder for themselves? If they do though, they should be able to.

I think the fact that no godlike Android sparrer has yet emerged kind of defends this argument for itself. But, the day PCs came to the Battle Arena still gives some of you nightmares. So, yeah.  

Posted by Vladdy

I feel your pain, Blood, if I was an Android user like yourself. Except you need to understand players can use keyboards w/Android. My proof is FloridaOrange (Helsing), whom stated he was using his keyboard w/an Andoid. It's not that anyone is scared/threatened, there just need to be in order in the GST. iDev vs. iDev, Mixed vs Mixed. Throwing Android in is popularity wise, if majority of the server want this change, it WILL happen. How you think " Mixed GST" came about? Blood, just play on an iDevice for this upcoming tournament.

I am pretty sure that you can use Bluetooth keyboards for iOS, along with the new controller support for iOS7 devices.  

iOS application developers emulate iPhones on a computer to test compatibility with the device software before testing it on an actual iOS machine. Android can be emulated in a similar way. No difference there. Separating the devices for this reason is absurd.

Android keyboards are buggy with Graal from what I hear. Even though there are some that may work, iOS devices also have keyboards and controllers you can buy and attach, if I'm not mistaken. If they don't just yet, I'm pretty sure I heard about some new iPhone and iPad keyboards and controllers that are on the way. I don't see a difference between the two.

I still think it's crazy that we are separating our community because of minute differences in technology, but I understand the reasoning behind the keyboard/touchscreen advantages theory. If we can disprove the notion that Androids are easier to take advantage of than iPhones, I don't see why they need to be segregated in an online community.  

Bluestack works with Graal. I've tried it  

Posted by Thallen

Do people actually think PC players are going to emulate Android just to enter a different GST? No thanks. I think I speak for the majority when I say I'd rather not be a part of that dramatic and laggy mess.
Mixed GST: "GG, was fun!"
iDevice GST: "OMFG LAGGY HISPANIC FRENCH IDIOT THIS IS AN OUTRAGE REPORT AND GET ALL BANNED ALSO BOYCOTT BATTLE ARENA I'M 12 SPARRING IS DED"

LOL xD True. I don't really hear much complains on Mixed side.  

It's not hard to realize that androids and idevices are pretty much the same. If one lacks something, the other will have it and vise versa. Glad to know i'm not the only. If androids are this much of a big deal to the graal community don't bother putting them with idevices. Shouldn't have released on google play then. It's hard for staff members to understand the concept. Apparently the setup on an android have special superman powers that the idevice can't handle. Just amazing how the staff thinks every android will use some kind of external output to play graal on just for one day. This is pretty much upsetting to know that i'll probably and other android users alike will have to go vs pcs because we dont have an "i" in front of "android". GG Graal.