Posted by Rexx

I'll never be on the front lines so its not my problem.

exactly.  

Posted by Infernus Lapse

Exactly. Discrimination is in American blood, therefore it is a characteristic of the country itself. It's also human nature, but not as severe ad the United States.

You must be pretty closed minded to believe this and not see the extremely blatant irony screaming right out of this text. I'll be ready to slap you in the face with some simple logic now.

Here's some simple logic from Jester:

Humans in general like to generalize people and put them into groups. This allows for issues to be looked at more simply, although mostly incorrect. This leads to stereotyping, racism, sexism and other actions where people are grouped based solely on opinion. And no, it's not just white people (Or people with "American Blood") who do these things, practically all humans do.

It is really unfortunate because this starts a cycle. As people look onto others expecting them to be something they are not, they can change into it. For example, people looking onto Muslims as terrorists and bombers, some people can just be like "**** it, that's what you want? I'll give it to you". It is a terrible cycle.

And what I said earlier:

Posted by Pimpsy G.

It's not because they're white or because of their culture, if that's what you're saying. Its happening because when there's a minority group in anything they are always looked upon differently. It could happen in any country if that country had similar levels of immigration as the US.

So, to conclude with my statement: All humans stereotype (Like what you are doing right now) and the United State's long history of discrimination is not because of their "Blood" or because they are "American" or "white" but simply because of it's unprecedented high levels of immigration. That's it. If you try to take it to some other level (like most people in this thread are doing) you are being as racist or stereotypical as any "American" is against Muslims.


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Posted by iHot

America has committed Genocide. They killed almost the entire Native population.

That is completely false. Small Pox and the Spanish Armada killed the vast majority of the Native Americans. Small Pox alone killed at least 80% of them. Of course there was a large amount of severe discrimination and wars against them after the United States was founded with horrible phenomenons such as the Trail of Tears, but things like that have always happened when there is a competing society next door occupying valuable resources. Putting this information out there as if to suggest that America is some sort of evil, racist titan is discriminatory in of itself. Seriously, what the hell man? Every. Single. Country. Has done that at some point. Do you know how many times England was invaded before it became the UK? Or how China got so big?  

If America is so discriminating and evil then why is every other country's immigrants flocking to our borders?  

Posted by K!LLA KEV

I did say "Most", not all, but ok, thats fair. lebanon still kinda fxcked up tho lol



terrorism is normally defined as an act of violence or terror with political motives. however, whatever term you wanna use or however you wanna define it, that country terrorizes its people and threatens other countries with nukes, lol not a good comparison.

and ok, so you dont care about people dying...what kind of person does that make you? lol

We humans care more about what's for lunch than about people dying in another country we know little about, that's human nature.  

1 date explains this madness: September 11, 2001...  

Posted by 5hifter

1 date explains this madness: September 11, 2001...

i'm not sure if you're trying to justify it or not  

Posted by K!LLA KEV

terrorism is normally defined as an act of violence or terror with political motives. however, whatever term you wanna use or however you wanna define it, that country terrorizes its people and threatens other countries with nukes, lol not a good comparison.

Threatning is not terrorism, if North Korea were to actually nuke civilians then it would be terrorism. If you count the horrible way they treat their own people then every country could be defined as a terrorist nation because every country has atleast one instance where they have used violence to coerce a civilian for political reasons.

and ok, so you dont care about people dying...what kind of person does that make you? lol

I never made this claim. I stated that I do not care if scumbags (murderers, rapists, terrorists, etc) were to die.

Posted by Pazx

i'm not sure if you're trying to justify it or not

There is merit to his post, Americans didn't really give two ****s about muslims until 9/11.  

Posted by Crono

Threatning is not terrorism, if North Korea were to actually nuke civilians then it would be terrorism. If you count the horrible way they treat their own people then every country could be defined as a terrorist nation because every country has atleast one instance where they have used violence to coerce a civilian for political reasons.

lol they opress, isolate and brainwash their people daily, & they are ranked one of the lowest countries in regard to human rights...  

Posted by K!LLA KEV

lol they opress, isolate and brainwash their people daily, & they are ranked one of the lowest countries in regard to human rights...

That's not exactly the definition of terrorism, buddy.
Why are you comparing a country with a terrorist organization.  

Posted by CourierSix

That's not exactly the definition of terrorism, buddy.
Why are you comparing a country with a terrorist organization.

lol im not, but read the prior posts, north korea isnt the best example or comparison this guy is trying to make.  

Posted by K!LLA KEV

lol they opress, isolate and brainwash their people daily, & they are ranked one of the lowest countries in regard to human rights...

Do you even remember what the topic of this thread was? We're talking about terrorism, not dictatorships or abusive governments. Your original response was that Iran is a terrorist state because it has an extremist government, but that is not the definition of terrorism. Iran's government can screw itself, they are bat**** insane, but that isn't radical islamic terrorism.

Posted by K!LLA KEV

lol im not, but read the prior posts, north korea isnt the best example or comparison this guy is trying to make.

North Korea is a good example because you equivalated nuclear ambitions with terrorism.

You seem to think I'm defending them, when I'm merely pointing out that your definition of terrorism is skewed.  

Posted by Crono

Do you even remember what the topic of this thread was? We're talking about terrorism, not dictatorships or abusive governments. Your original response was that Iran is a terrorist state because it has an extremist government, but that is not the definition of terrorism. Iran's government can screw itself, they are bat**** insane, but that isn't radical islamic terrorism.



North Korea is a good example because you equivalated nuclear ambitions with terrorism.

You seem to think I'm defending them, when I'm merely pointing out that your definition of terrorism is skewed.

ok you win, idc anymore this is boring me now, the middle east is a fxcked up region, north korea might as well be a terrorist nation too and im done, thanks for your time.  

Posted by K!LLA KEV

ok you win, idc anymore this is boring me now, the middle east is a fxcked up region, north korea might as well be a terrorist nation too and im done, thanks for your time.

Thanks for playing.

I, of course, do agree that the middle east is a ****hole and North Korea needs to get its ass kicked already.  

To my understanding, the hatred of a whole people or culture comes about through ignorance, usually people like American "rednecks" or Australian "bogans" are the most racist because they identify extremists as everyone of that belief system or race.

Sorry if this has been said, I couldn't be bothered reading all the posts x.x  

What you guys don't see is the stuff America has been doing to muslims in their own countries.