Posted by Eldon

Trading will help encourage people to buy packs.

It won't, because you're taking two things away from Graal. First, you're no longer making the Graal administration the only "shop owner" on the game, and then on top of that you're no longer making gralats the only form of currency in the game.

Posted by Eldon

It isnt much different from buying from shops? Personally, i think your statement is completly wrong. Think about it, video game stores first stell a game, a comparison to a hat, and when someone doesnt like the game, they will give it back. Then the store will sell it for less, but they are making more money even though its less because they are selling the game twice.

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This isn't how trade-in shops work. Graal would not have any way of making money through a largely player-managed trading economy, unless they implement additional ideas to help encourage players to buy packs (such as charging a fee per trade).

Graal doesn't need you to "sell back" items to them, because they have infinite hats. Graal does not want your gralats.

Posted by Eldon

Another point to say is that, if you see someone selling a hat that you really want, and dont have the amount he is asking, you arent going to go farm for an hour, and hope its there. You will be pressured and will buy the pack.

I don't follow this example entirely. When admins release new hats right now, players are pressured to buy packs. If you introduce trading, it brings a new variable of being able to trade hats for hats and you can't even measure how many gralat packs are going to be purchased because of that. It may encourage players to buy gralat packs for trading, but just as much as it encourages trading hats for hats.  

What i mean by "sell back" is that say for example, a mask was first bought in stores. That money was dispensed into the item and it isnt going anywhere. But adding trade, many people will buy that same hat, making it have more money into a single item, instead if sitting in a single persons inventory.  

Posted by fp4

We (me being a major contributor to the project) are working on providing means to facilitate player-to-player commerce and hope to have it ready in the near future.

 

Posted by Thallen

It's not hard to come up with a pretty sound theory on why this hasn't been developed yet. Maybe it is partially because it requires a large amount of work, but I'm sure there are other underlying factors. Why do you think it's so difficult to exchange gralats on iClassic? Recently, in-house farms sort of allow you to do it, but on PC Graal you could simply S+A and drop gralats. If anything, it's a functionality they had to work to disable on iClassic.

It's a little bit like a video game trade-in shop. Major retailers and game studios don't want these third-party options to exist. Why? Because they don't profit in any way off of games being traded between people.

When you see a new hat or a certain item on Graal that costs money, you can pay for it by gralats that you've either farmed or won in events or that you've paid for a purchased with real money. Graal is a business and they want your real money.

Every time a hat is released, Graal definitely makes money on that day. That's good for a business. If you introduce a trading system, players will no longer be encouraged to spend money on gralats. Gralats won't even be the only currency. When you can trade hats for other hats, you basically no longer have to rely on gralats. You can just trade, and trade, and trade, and Graal is slowly going to become less dependant on gralats and the game is going to make less money.

Simply put, it's probably not the best business decision for Graal to implement a (free) trading system. How else is the game supposed to make money? That's what I'd imagine has been holding it back for so long. I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't true though, taking into consideration the poor management and business decisions the Graal management have made in the past. I've never even known of a successful Graal ad campaign, etc. Who knows, I guess.

This is wrong. SO WRONG!

The only currency in graal is graalats. They are getting the money!! No one is going to trade a hat/gani/item for less than 1000! This would improve ecomony! If people have more money from trades, THEY WILL BUY NEW SHOP ITEMS.


Also the fee for gst is a horrible idea. No one is going to pay 10,000 entry fee to loose!

I could see a 250 fee for trade though.. It would make them so much money.

I mean 25 graalats is 1¢  

Trade fees are a horrible idea due to possible glitches of exiting trade, or trollers €.€  

Ya I guess.. 25 graalat fee is good.. At least I think so since you only loose a cent.  

Classic wants a trade system? Ha! Why don't they install it when Harry potter celebrates his 8th birthday with his parents.  

Learn to read. Fp4 said it was being worked on and possibly added in the near future..  

I mean a successful one  

Posted by eric

Classic wants a trade system? Ha! Why don't they install it when Harry potter celebrates his 8th birthday with his parents.

Was that supposed to be funny?  

A succesful trade system wouldn't be hard. Just need an interface so it's not as scam able like era.  

Posted by eric

Classic wants a trade system? Ha! Why don't they install it when Harry potter celebrates his 8th birthday with his parents.

that was lame.


I am sure a trade system that Fq4 is working on will be usder friendly to do the trade.
Maybe a amont for the hats can be traded for, so people do not get scammed by a ass hat that overprice what the hat they paid for.
Yes some hats are rare/aren't sold anymore so they could be higher in price since the demade on it will be high.

I can't wait to see how the trade system does come out.  

If a trading system is to be made in the near future I would hope they beta test the Hell out of it for glitches and exploits. Even when it's completely finished it should go through tons of preliminary tests before it's implemented. Using players as the test subjects, because players are often better at finding exploits than the staff for some odd reason. And not too often do you see a staff member try to glitch.  

Rufus simply said no, when I made a thread about trade system.  

It's not a trade system.