Delay bans

meganey98 · 01-20-2013

Hi, I recently gs with my friends everyday. I have notice some users are fake lagging/delaying or I would say distract their wifi to make lags. Most people knows zax delays and he is hacker who can control his delay rates, but why aren't admins ban him? I reported him few times, he never get caught. Every game he joins make us wait about few mintues.

Dusty · 01-20-2013

It's a touchy area because of legitimate lag.

iStorm · 01-20-2013

I have a iPod 2nd gen and the slow Verizon Mifi internet box... So my ms is usually 155 but can go up to like 300 So i would probably be banned alot just because i have slow internet. Dislike

iHot · 01-21-2013

Posted by NobleLeo

I have a iPod 2nd gen and the slow Verizon Mifi internet box... So my ms is usually 155 but can go up to like 300 So i would probably be banned alot just because i have slow internet. Dislike

Damn man get a new iPod.

iStorm · 01-21-2013

Yea, i will soon ordering new screen for my 3rd gen... Im upgrading little by little haha

iHot · 01-21-2013

Posted by NobleLeo

Yea, i will soon ordering new screen for my 3rd gen... Im upgrading little by little haha

Lol good luck.

Twinny · 01-21-2013

Hard to differentiate between legitimate and faked lag. Unfortunately, Graal doesn't utilise distributed servers so everyone is talking to the same server regardless of distance/latency.

It could be considered harsh but one option is to have different categories of spars:

< 100ms
100 - 250ms
250 - 500ms
500+ ms

It would allow you in based on your average latency in the last 5 minutes (The door should block you if you have only connected/reconnected in last 5 minutes).

It would be interesting to have geolocation-based sparring but Graal does not utilise such a service so hard to make accurate (and also the fact people will proxy anyways)

Dusty · 01-21-2013

Does anyone actually get <100ms ping? I found the iClassic server laggy on average, with constant bouts of hiccups.

meganey98 · 01-21-2013

But he is obviously a hacker. :/

Posted by Dusty

Does anyone actually get <100ms ping? I found the iClassic server laggy on average, with constant bouts of hiccups.

My average is 60-80ms and if it's crowded it goes upto 150ms

Liam Kelly · 01-21-2013

Posted by meganey98

Hi, I recently gs with my friends everyday. I have notice some users are fake lagging/delaying or I would say distract their wifi to make lags. Most people knows zax delays and he is hacker who can control his delay rates, but why aren't admins ban him? I reported him few times, he never get caught. Every game he joins make us wait about few mintues.

is zax that kid who owns luck(guild boosted on facebook)?
I report that kid normally, he follows me around to kill every time he notices im on..

Ash Ketchum · 01-21-2013

The whole ping thing isn't really accurate.. depends where you live really, even if you have the lowest ping, you can still be laggy..

Twinny · 01-21-2013

Posted by Ash Ketchum

The whole ping thing isn't really accurate.. depends where you live really, even if you have the lowest ping, you can still be laggy..

Indeed. No-one sets priority (QoS) on ICMP so any other traffic will destroy it. Even though Graal doesn't use ICMP for it's pings (scripted anyway. Don't know about hardcoded ping) but if you're torrenting or on a voice/video call, that traffic will generally end up delaying both the send and receive of the ping/ping reply so it won't give accurate distance. The latency is still true in a sense though in that is taking that long for packets to be received and returned.

Aaron · 01-21-2013

Take into account normal Aussie and Japanese lag.

Bubba De Orc · 01-21-2013

I wonder how Sarah got all those spars, oh wait we already know.

twilit · 01-21-2013

lol'd
but i thought a 1000ms lag cap was added to guild spar (or was it only spar?) but i dont think ive seen anyone warp out for exceding the lag cap.. maybe it should be lowered some?

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meganey98 Megan (Providence) Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: United States Posts: 863	Delay bans Hi, I recently gs with my friends everyday. I have notice some users are fake lagging/delaying or I would say distract their wifi to make lags. Most people knows zax delays and he is hacker who can control his delay rates, but why aren't admins ban him? I reported him few times, he never get caught. Every game he joins make us wait about few mintues.

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Dusty Should be fixed. Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 6,359	It's a touchy area because of legitimate lag.

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iStorm In-game name: iStorm Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Easter Island Posts: 106	I have a iPod 2nd gen and the slow Verizon Mifi internet box... So my ms is usually 155 but can go up to like 300 So i would probably be banned alot just because i have slow internet. Dislike

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iStorm In-game name: iStorm Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Easter Island Posts: 106	Yea, i will soon ordering new screen for my 3rd gen... Im upgrading little by little haha

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Twinny Registered User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Testbed Posts: 604	Hard to differentiate between legitimate and faked lag. Unfortunately, Graal doesn't utilise distributed servers so everyone is talking to the same server regardless of distance/latency. It could be considered harsh but one option is to have different categories of spars: < 100ms 100 - 250ms 250 - 500ms 500+ ms It would allow you in based on your average latency in the last 5 minutes (The door should block you if you have only connected/reconnected in last 5 minutes). It would be interesting to have geolocation-based sparring but Graal does not utilise such a service so hard to make accurate (and also the fact people will proxy anyways)

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Ash Ketchum Veritired ✔️ Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 4,441	The whole ping thing isn't really accurate.. depends where you live really, even if you have the lowest ping, you can still be laggy..

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Aaron Reformed Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,812	Take into account normal Aussie and Japanese lag.

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Bubba De Orc Bubba Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 520	I wonder how Sarah got all those spars, oh wait we already know.

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twilit michael Join Date: May 2012 Location: Hyrule Posts: 3,511	lol'd but i thought a 1000ms lag cap was added to guild spar (or was it only spar?) but i dont think ive seen anyone warp out for exceding the lag cap.. maybe it should be lowered some?