pbp changes - 3

Richard · 09-09-2012

Posted by DragonRider

OH MY GOD.
YOU PEOPLE ARE ****ING IGNORANT.
READ THE GODDAMN THREAD.
WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS A PERFECT GUN RELEASE, EVERY TIME.
NOT HUMANLY POSSIBLE.
THEY NEED TO MODIFY IT TO MAKE IT BALANCED.
SERIOUSLY.
yes, I mad

Uh, yeah it is perfectly possible. Take a look at your favorite first person shooters kiddo. Admittedly I haven't played a FPS since quake 3 but the weapons were perfectly balanced.

I chalk it up to massive disorganization, budget and lack of experience. Once you get out of middle school and past high school you start learning about these kind of things and strategies on howto prevent them. Shoot me a message when and if these ever occur!

NCJohn · 09-09-2012

Posted by Richard

Uh, yeah it is perfectly possible. Take a look at your favorite first person shooters kiddo. Admittedly I haven't played a FPS since quake 3 but the weapons were perfectly balanced.

I chalk it up to massive disorganization, budget and lack of experience. Once you get out of middle school and past high school you start learning about these kind of things and strategies on howto prevent them. Shoot me a message when and if these ever occur!

You're comparing a multi-platform FPS developed by paid professionals to a simple iPhone app ran and developed by volunteers....

Higbey · 09-09-2012

You don't need money to take the time to properly test everything. Simply making a rent a gun feature for new guns so players could pay for one short trial of using it, you could see if its over powered. The entire era weapon system is flawed and makes it harder to balance weapons anyway.

And dragon rider your analogies are horrible. It is humanly possible to test the weapons and figure out what's overpowered and fix it before releasing it. If you change a weapon all the buyers deserve a refund, as people bought gralat packs with real money and purchased the gun and the gun was nerfed I'd say this violates apples guidelines.

Dude1310 · 09-09-2012

Posted by snk

I like the idea of random damage per bullet, based between 'half of default damage' and 'full damage' (for example, if the PBP was 9 damage per bullet, the random damage would be between '4' and '9' (rounding down silly billys))

you agree?

Oh yay! you like my idea, I'm a smart kiddie!

Shock · 09-09-2012

Snk, I'd like to front a gun testing project before you release guns. Invite random players to an off map spot and have a battle royale. I'm not saying you can't do it yourselves, but if you get a sample of the community to test the guns, who arent complete morons, then you can get an idea of strength VS price. Gun balancing won't go away if you don't test out the guns properly. I'm prepared to give feedback from the community in a low profile fashion.

ManBearPig · 09-09-2012

This is what happens when you dont pay much attention to gun details and focus more on candy land updates...

iEra should be more about guns,but then again who am i to tell you this.
Going a little off topic; please change the ACR gfx,use the one from pc,the current one ruined the whole ACR concept

iMask · 09-09-2012

Agreed with Shock

Dusty · 09-09-2012

Posted by DragonRider

OH MY GOD.
YOU PEOPLE ARE ****ING IGNORANT.
READ THE GODDAMN THREAD.
WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS A PERFECT GUN RELEASE, EVERY TIME.
NOT HUMANLY POSSIBLE.
THEY NEED TO MODIFY IT TO MAKE IT BALANCED.
SERIOUSLY.
yes, I mad

The difference is that on Era you're paying money for a specific gun. It's not fair to release a gun and players pay for what it is, only to have it nerfed later. When guns stats change they should provide players with 24 hours to have a full refund.

It's comparable to buying an album and then a few weeks later they remove half of the songs you paid for with no refund.

Billy · 09-09-2012

That's their fault,that's what those a-holes get. No one got pbp until it was op,i used it when it was 8 damage.

BabyGhost · 09-09-2012

Posted by Shock

Snk, I'd like to front a gun testing project before you release guns. Invite random players to an off map spot and have a battle royale. I'm not saying you can't do it yourselves, but if you get a sample of the community to test the guns, who arent complete morons, then you can get an idea of strength VS price. Gun balancing won't go away if you don't test out the guns properly. I'm prepared to give feedback from the community in a low profile fashion.

Get some good sparrers to test them out as well. Good sparrers know how to use guns.

failure · 09-09-2012

how bout we buff the bar instead? xD

Sly · 09-09-2012

Hi SNK ^-^ I think that was a really good Idea changing the damage of the PBP.but the PBP is exactly like the m3 maybe make the PBP one dmg higher

Billy · 09-09-2012

Posted by failure

how bout we buff the bar instead? xD

BAR is already deadly against every gun besides PBP.

Ventus277 · 09-10-2012

I like snakes original formula half each shot so it is easier to manage future shotguns, but if it is easier to add random damage to every shot gun for balancing go for it.

Shock · 09-10-2012

Posted by BabyGhost

Get some good sparrers to test them out as well. Good sparrers know how to use guns.

Agree. Anyway, I'm down with helping out if it'll help.

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Higbey Not Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Hell Posts: 4,885	You don't need money to take the time to properly test everything. Simply making a rent a gun feature for new guns so players could pay for one short trial of using it, you could see if its over powered. The entire era weapon system is flawed and makes it harder to balance weapons anyway. And dragon rider your analogies are horrible. It is humanly possible to test the weapons and figure out what's overpowered and fix it before releasing it. If you change a weapon all the buyers deserve a refund, as people bought gralat packs with real money and purchased the gun and the gun was nerfed I'd say this violates apples guidelines.

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Shock Pixels for breakfast! Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Florida, United States Posts: 2,409	Snk, I'd like to front a gun testing project before you release guns. Invite random players to an off map spot and have a battle royale. I'm not saying you can't do it yourselves, but if you get a sample of the community to test the guns, who arent complete morons, then you can get an idea of strength VS price. Gun balancing won't go away if you don't test out the guns properly. I'm prepared to give feedback from the community in a low profile fashion.

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ManBearPig Im serial! Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Al Gore¨s Mind Posts: 170	This is what happens when you dont pay much attention to gun details and focus more on candy land updates... iEra should be more about guns,but then again who am i to tell you this. Going a little off topic; please change the ACR gfx,use the one from pc,the current one ruined the whole ACR concept

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iMask iEra SFX Staff Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 561	Agreed with Shock

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Billy (Domination) Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,133	That's their fault,that's what those a-holes get. No one got pbp until it was op,i used it when it was 8 damage.

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failure (Idiotism) Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Idiotism Posts: 920	how bout we buff the bar instead? xD

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Sly Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1	Hi SNK ^-^ I think that was a really good Idea changing the damage of the PBP.but the PBP is exactly like the m3 maybe make the PBP one dmg higher

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Ventus277 Divided Soul Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: United States Posts: 814	I like snakes original formula half each shot so it is easier to manage future shotguns, but if it is easier to add random damage to every shot gun for balancing go for it.