Cliffs

Kiwi · 06-11-2012

I have searched the forums for this, and couldn't find it, so...

What is up with the cliffs? The tiles don't match up, and it makes everything look terrible.

Why?

Dusty · 06-11-2012

Because Stefan.

RileyFiery · 06-11-2012

Posted by Dusty

Because Stefan.

A very bad decision and now there are many people making the same mistake.

Rufus · 06-11-2012

The staff don't like it either, trust me.

Kiwi · 06-11-2012

Hm. Who made them in the first place?

Skyzer · 06-12-2012

Certainly not Konidas.

Dusty · 06-12-2012

They're remnants of the NW project, or New World project. This was from a very long time ago. Not much sense in going into detail since most people here won't realize the things I'd need to mention to have anything make sense. Anyways they're from like 2000, and it was a failed project overall for Graal(it was worked on by Stefan, though), but brought many new features to Graal in its failure. NW level format, ganis, NPC server are just a few things it introduced to Graal.

Anyways, cliffs came from that tileset.

Kiwi · 06-12-2012

Posted by Dusty

They're remnants of the NW project, or New World project. This was from a very long time ago. Not much sense in going into detail since most people here won't realize the things I'd need to mention to have anything make sense. Anyways they're from like 2000, and it was a failed project overall for Graal(it was worked on by Stefan, though), but brought many new features to Graal in its failure. NW level format, ganis, NPC server are just a few things it introduced to Graal.

Anyways, cliffs came from that tileset.

Aw, please share. PM? I can't find anything on it on the Official Forums, except for a few random mentions.

Did the cliffs look right on that server? Why do they look so wrong on Classic iPhone?

Dusty · 06-12-2012

Posted by Kiwi.

Aw, please share. PM? I can't find anything on it on the Official Forums, except for a few random mentions.

Did the cliffs look right on that server? Why do they look so wrong on Classic iPhone?

They looked exactly the same. They're just poor graphics.

Kiwi · 06-12-2012

Oh. Well, that is my question answered, more or less.
Wait, then why don't they get fixed? It's certainly possible, and it would make it look a lot nicer.

Higbey · 06-12-2012

because stefan is too stubborn and is afraid that we cant take the download of a new tileset, even when it could easily be downloaded via a appstore update.

considering you need to redownload the tileset when you first get the app i wouldnt say it would be impossible.

but this is stefan we are talking about, getting him to change would be just as likely as being able to talk the wind into changing.

Dusty · 06-12-2012

Posted by Kiwi.

Oh. Well, that is my question answered, more or less.
Wait, then why don't they get fixed? It's certainly possible, and it would make it look a lot nicer.

Depends on what you're imagining "fixing" would be. Remaking them is no easy feat. It's a very warped and horrible perspective to work with(thanks to LttP) and more importantly, works with a very... demanding set of tiles. It's very, very hard to make nice looking cliffs and have them work with the tiles already existing.

Second outcome would be to replace them with the original pics1 cliffs(that PC classic uses). This would be easy and desirable, but as it's been said, the problem is Stefan. Paranoia and such.

Kiwi · 06-12-2012

Posted by Dusty

Depends on what you're imagining "fixing" would be. Remaking them is no easy feat. It's a very warped and horrible perspective to work with(thanks to LttP) and more importantly, works with a very... demanding set of tiles. It's very, very hard to make nice looking cliffs and have them work with the tiles already existing.

Second outcome would be to replace them with the original pics1 cliffs(that PC classic uses). This would be easy and desirable, but as it's been said, the problem is Stefan. Paranoia and such.

I'd love them to replace the current cliffs with those cliffs. Those cliffs actually work. A shame that it'd never happen, as you said.

Skyzer · 06-12-2012

The NW project had some pretty cool stuff. The tiles were ass, but the music was nice.

twilit · 06-12-2012

Posted by Higbey

because stefan is too stubborn and is afraid that we cant take the download of a new tileset, even when it could easily be downloaded via a appstore update.

is an appstore update even necessary? the FB server tileset / the fb server being created in general didnt require app update. or did i just forget?

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Kiwi Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,956	Cliffs I have searched the forums for this, and couldn't find it, so... What is up with the cliffs? The tiles don't match up, and it makes everything look terrible. Why?

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Dusty Should be fixed. Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 6,359	Because Stefan.

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Rufus Registered rufp4 Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 3,378	The staff don't like it either, trust me.

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Skyzer Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Hampshire, United States Posts: 3,135	Certainly not Konidas.

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Higbey Not Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Hell Posts: 4,885	because stefan is too stubborn and is afraid that we cant take the download of a new tileset, even when it could easily be downloaded via a appstore update. considering you need to redownload the tileset when you first get the app i wouldnt say it would be impossible. but this is stefan we are talking about, getting him to change would be just as likely as being able to talk the wind into changing.