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Ghettoicedtea 04-24-2016 12:45 AM

wtf set the invincibility timer (hit timer) to 0
 
play zone for first time in a year and a half
equip rusted pez
time to see what changed
guns are slow AF
ok thats fine
open fire on a scrub
takes 14 shots to kill him
everyone else AFK wake the **** up and destroy me

WTF geno plz, remove this garbage, theres a flag thats something along the line of recovery time, set that **** to 0. If alex is a prick like tashkin and won't allow you to change the flag then go into the guns and change the recovery timer to 0 for every single weapon. This is absolutely unacceptable, you should be rewarded for landing a shot, not punished for it, if your trapped you should be punished for getting trapped not make it out of a trap with 1 hit while absorbing 3 bullets. Especially since no meta evolving changes have been made and were still stuck with the current spar guns garbage. Combat is sooooo slow, please speed it up. Seeing how someone just absorbed 5 shots of my pez, I'm guessing it's at the default of .5

also wtf happened to grenades.

Weeno 04-24-2016 01:04 AM

Grenades were nice. Should be an item though. And would be a good useless addition to the grenade shop

GenoIndeed 04-24-2016 06:57 AM

I set all the hit timers to 0, theres another script somewhere the affects this and alex tried to set it to 0 and it didnt work, im not sure what tashkin did when he last changed it. Also, the hit timers are bugged beyond belief, ive been asking for someone to fix them for ages now and no one will take the time to do so. All of this is really messing up gameplay. And the guns arent that slow, thats an exaggeration, but theres another bug that prevents me from making them faster, most range from .2 to .25, any faster than .2 (literally .19) allows a glitch to occur where you can shoot the gun at chaingun speeds by tapping at a slow pace. Im working with what i have, a lot of things we're changed during draguns term and then cookies term especially. Im trying to get this all sorted out but not getting the help to do so

Lambda 04-24-2016 10:58 AM

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Posted by GenoIndeed (Post 698192)
I set all the hit timers to 0, theres another script somewhere the affects this and alex tried to set it to 0 and it didnt work, im not sure what tashkin did when he last changed it. Also, the hit timers are bugged beyond belief, ive been asking for someone to fix them for ages now and no one will take the time to do so. All of this is really messing up gameplay. And the guns arent that slow, thats an exaggeration, but theres another bug that prevents me from making them faster, most range from .2 to .25, any faster than .2 (literally .19) allows a glitch to occur where you can shoot the gun at chaingun speeds by tapping at a slow pace. Im working with what i have, a lot of things we're changed during draguns term and then cookies term especially. Im trying to get this all sorted out but not getting the help to do so

Tashkin said it wasn't intentional, he didn't notice until GIT was near the end of his 2nd GA adminstration.

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GenoIndeed 04-24-2016 11:06 AM

But idk what he did to fix it tho

Ghettoicedtea 04-25-2016 08:21 AM

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Posted by GenoIndeed (Post 698192)
I set all the hit timers to 0, theres another script somewhere the affects this and alex tried to set it to 0 and it didnt work, im not sure what tashkin did when he last changed it. Also, the hit timers are bugged beyond belief, ive been asking for someone to fix them for ages now and no one will take the time to do so. All of this is really messing up gameplay. And the guns arent that slow, thats an exaggeration, but theres another bug that prevents me from making them faster, most range from .2 to .25, any faster than .2 (literally .19) allows a glitch to occur where you can shoot the gun at chaingun speeds by tapping at a slow pace. Im working with what i have, a lot of things we're changed during draguns term and then cookies term especially. Im trying to get this all sorted out but not getting the help to do so

What the **** happened when i made it all 0 and the hit detection worked like a charm. Literally nothing wrong at all you were dying in a blink of an eye if you landed all the shots. Also on the slow tap fire thing. Thats not a bug or glitch. Thats called a timer. The timer resets after x amount of seconds. Some numbers are easier to hit than others making people think the rof is insanely fast. Example of this is the m4 and sten on iera. The sten is a more popular gun because while it IS worse than the m4, it was far easier to use because the tap fire was an easy to hit .24 while the m4 was the dreaded .2. Anything less than .19 is generally easy ro hit while numbers like .2 are hard to hit. Also .19 and .15 are very hard to tell apart by eye. The difference is pixels. But there is a difference and a large one at that. Also the semi auto guns never ever EVER had consistant T2K as its not auto so theres variance in the times because your would have one shot fire at .18 another at .187, .182, .189, .193 etc

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Posted by Lambda (Post 698215)
Tashkin said it wasn't intentional, he didn't notice until GIT was near the end of his 2nd GA adminstration.

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Thats a load of horse**** because during my 2nd term i shut off the hit timer entirely and that too worked like a charm.

GenoIndeed 04-25-2016 01:27 PM

The rapid fire thing was just too much tho regarding balance purposes, i tried it for a while before making this decision to roll them back to .2, which worked really well. That timing script isn't even accurate, which played a part in how the bug was done of course. And idk what happened to the hit timer and detection, got screwed beyond belief before i got hired, even after setting the timers to 0 its still registering around .2-.3 and its too forgving, and the hit detection is bugged too, like if we shot at each other and i hit you .0009 seconds before you hit me, your bullet won't do dmg. Sometimes it might activate a random effect like poison. Also, since we're on this subject, another bugged ive asked to get fixed and hasnt, is that all guns, even the beamer, are activating frenzy mode when you get a kill and giving them extra dmg. Its all really ridiculous.

Ghettoicedtea 04-26-2016 09:48 PM

Too much though? Too much? ***** i balanced those guns perfectly fine with rapid fire. My guns were shooting waaaay faster than yours arnd there was very little complaining from the community. All guns automatic shoot at .265 seconds and become chainguns at .15. Literally worrying about nothing. The timing script is 100% accurate. I have no idea what crack your smoking. I tested this a million times. I can prove it too. Ok go into your stop watch app on your iphone. Get a guns rof, start it and tap lap. Goal is to get as close to the rof as possible You are doing it right if the number is higher than the ROF. If its lower the gun wont fire and your pattern will be thrown off. Learn the tap rhythm. Then transfer it over to graal. ??? You will get maximum weapon efficency.
Please stop making up lazy excuses to slow the game down and cut down on spam weapons.

As for the timer did you check the player and NPCs? if the player and NPC hit timer is off then the guns will be 0 if you set to 0. Might wanna check that

GenoIndeed 04-27-2016 12:35 AM

Well its gonna stay that way until carlito nerfs them all. I got fired, all stemming from trying to get things done. Now, the weapons admin position is gone, the zp are now in charge of balancing guns. Myself being the only one with a clue on how to do it is gone, so its a blind drive now.

Also, ghetto, there were two gun admins in between our terms, they screwed all that up

PigParty 04-27-2016 12:39 AM

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Posted by GenoIndeed (Post 699341)
Well its gonna stay that way until carlito nerfs them all. I got fired, all stemming from trying to get things done. Now, the weapons admin position is gone, the zp are now in charge of balancing guns. Myself being the only one with a clue on how to do it is gone, so its a blind drive now.

Also, ghetto, there were two gun admins in between our terms, they screwed all that up

LOL ZPs in charge of guns? Hell, I'm just going to say it because Fried Rice is incompetent and doesn't do ****. The ZP, Oscar, was that Gitaz douche who nonstop trash talked FR, Alex, Tashkin, and all of the iZone staff and server. I guess his bashing FR was actually true since FR never handled it once I brought the situation up to him. My point is: ZPs are mostly incompetent when it comes to development positions. Their job is to enforce the rules and be social. Just as developers usually suck at following rules and being social and polite. You can't have ZPs deciding gun stats.

Shadeh13 04-27-2016 01:17 AM

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Posted by GenoIndeed (Post 699341)
Well its gonna stay that way until carlito nerfs them all. I got fired, all stemming from trying to get things done. Now, the weapons admin position is gone, the zp are now in charge of balancing guns. Myself being the only one with a clue on how to do it is gone, so its a blind drive now.

Also, ghetto, there were two gun admins in between our terms, they screwed all that up

Woah what? You got fired? Wtf, when? And why are kids that are never on in the first place monitoring gun stats? We have 16 zps and this still happens because they are NEVER ON.
http://i.imgur.com/8ZPv7HF.jpg

Lambda 04-27-2016 03:37 AM

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Posted by GenoIndeed (Post 699341)
Well its gonna stay that way until carlito nerfs them all. I got fired, all stemming from trying to get things done. Now, the weapons admin position is gone, the zp are now in charge of balancing guns. Myself being the only one with a clue on how to do it is gone, so its a blind drive now.

Also, ghetto, there were two gun admins in between our terms, they screwed all that up

What the **** wow I am undone.

And I thought Zone were going somewhere...

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Distorted_P2P 04-27-2016 03:53 AM

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Posted by GenoIndeed (Post 699341)
Well its gonna stay that way until carlito nerfs them all. I got fired, all stemming from trying to get things done. Now, the weapons admin position is gone, the zp are now in charge of balancing guns. Myself being the only one with a clue on how to do it is gone, so its a blind drive now.

Also, ghetto, there were two gun admins in between our terms, they screwed all that up

wtf is wrong with carlito

LOL IS HE SCRAPPING ZONE TOO

GenoIndeed 04-27-2016 11:29 AM

Thats basically where things are headed sadly

imSupah 04-27-2016 03:46 PM

The only staff I see that is active on here and wanted to push Zone in the right direction got fired. You see why this server will remain a flop? Sorry Geno..You tried.

Ghettoicedtea 04-27-2016 05:07 PM

Fug this server is going to hell. I had a small flicker of hope. Guess you can't have hope around here

Nanner 04-27-2016 07:46 PM

Bye iZone

Shadeh13 04-27-2016 09:15 PM

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Posted by Its_Nanner (Post 699594)
Bye iZone

Noob

Distorted_P2P 04-27-2016 09:30 PM

carlito is like the worst pwa in the history of graal

dude doesn't even speak ****ing english

Ghettoicedtea 04-27-2016 10:40 PM

Serious? What does he speak

Weeno 04-27-2016 10:59 PM

GENO GOT FIRED? MAN THATS BOOTY. The only thing zps are gonna want is more auction items and buffing them until melees have no freeze and guns do 19 dmg

Shmegg 04-27-2016 11:00 PM

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Posted by Its_Nanner (Post 699594)
Bye iZone

byeZone

Weeno 04-27-2016 11:20 PM

who here can make a new server that's futuristic

Shadeh13 04-27-2016 11:56 PM

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Posted by Weeno (Post 699694)
GENO GOT FIRED? MAN THATS BOOTY. The only thing zps are gonna want is more auction items and buffing them until melees have no freeze and guns do 19 dmg

Baka, only reason kids wanna get hired now is either for the Power, or the pay. No other reason. None of them are ever on. In fact, when these kids told a friend to kill himself, it took 4 ZPs to finally get one to do something.

Another example: Rebel harassing Chubby and Trigger by learning mspaint and then automatically accepting rude Squad Logos. No one did anything. I asked Andy, then Obliveon, and then Idarkness finally did something. Why is it that out of 16 ZPS, only one of them is capable? SEVENTEEN ZPS TO WATCH A 300 PLAYER SERVER, and they FAIL AT IT. What went so wrong?

PigParty 04-28-2016 12:16 AM

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Posted by Shmegg (Post 699697)
byeZone

bye smeq

ps u still need my hat b4 the server dies

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Posted by Shadeh13 (Post 699709)
Baka, only reason kids wanna get hired now is either for the Power, or the pay. No other reason. None of them are ever on. In fact, when these kids told a friend to kill himself, it took 4 ZPs to finally get one to do something.

Another example: Rebel harassing Chubby and Trigger by learning mspaint and then automatically accepting rude Squad Logos. No one did anything. I asked Andy, then Obliveon, and then Idarkness finally did something. Why is it that out of 16 ZPS, only one of them is capable? SEVENTEEN ZPS TO WATCH A 300 PLAYER SERVER, and they FAIL AT IT. What went so wrong?

Because there's no punishment for ZPs. I've reported issues with staff doing things that should get them fired immediately, and usually nothing happens besides being told "don't do it again!" It's pathetic honestly. I've seen (I won't name names) staff take flags while in stealth, repeatedly hitting the flag and lowering it, and sometimes actually taking it from guilds. I've seen someone (I will name him because he's a douchebag) named Blurb who was hired, then less than an hour after receiving access to zone on his staff account, sexually harassed multiple people, calling them "gay" and other slurs. I told FR and showed pictures and FR did not a single thing. Not a thing. When incompetent people run the staff team, you get a majority of incompetent staff. Hell, let's not forget Tashkin giving a unique hat (chosen and made [really just edited] by this group) to a group of glitchers who were caught abusing a duplication glitch, getting tons of ZC and duplicating rare hats. Then Tash went on to hire 2 of them and the Trade Admin position was born. Looking back, it's really just humorous.

Alexmo 04-28-2016 12:17 AM

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Posted by Weeno (Post 699694)
GENO GOT FIRED MAN THATS BOOTY. The only thing zps are gonna want is more auction items and buffing them until melees have no freeze and guns do 19 dmg

Well Geno was our last hope rip zone

imSupah 04-28-2016 12:50 AM

ZPs should be there to enforce game rules and monitor play activity and reports. THEY SHOULD NOT BE WEAPON BALANCING. This is why Zone is a flop. The staff is all over the place and I feel they honestly don't know what they really are doing.

Weeno 04-28-2016 01:33 AM

That's like....telling an events team to do gani and Gfx. Ok maybe not but I'm sure 90% of ZPs are clueless and know nothing. This time zone REALLY has failed. We need a new server.

Shadeh13 04-28-2016 02:00 AM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 699716)
bye smeq

-snip-

I completely agree. All of them get slaps on the wrist. The thing that honestly annoys me though is that they only hire their butt buddies and then they are either useless, power abusing, or never actually on. I swear, I could do wonders, yet all these kids care about is the payment. Someone told me that Theodore directly said he only really wanted in for the payment so he could get all the auctions. Now, is that really fair? I think staff shouldn't get a payment at all, frankly. But that's just my two cents.

PigParty 04-28-2016 02:11 AM

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Posted by Shadeh13 (Post 699763)
I completely agree. All of them get slaps on the wrist. The thing that honestly annoys me though is that they only hire their butt buddies and then they are either useless, power abusing, or never actually on. I swear, I could do wonders, yet all these kids care about is the payment. Someone told me that Theodore directly said he only really wanted in for the payment so he could get all the auctions. Now, is that really fair? I think staff shouldn't get a payment at all, frankly. But that's just my two cents.

When I went back as Support Admin, I didn't get paid. Alex asked me a few times and I kept refusing to give him my player acc GraalID :P He eventually found out and gave me 100k gralats after a few months of me not being paid. Even staff who want to do stuff aren't able to because of scripting/management. I tried to bring back the SST, asked FR, was told I could, but never got the building or anything set up by him. Then I found out a monthish later that Cassie and Shmegg were going to, and that never happened either for most likely the same reasons. Just one of many examples.

Shadeh13 04-28-2016 02:15 AM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 699767)
When I went back as Support Admin, I didn't get paid. Alex asked me a few times and I kept refusing to give him my player acc GraalID :P He eventually found out and gave me 100k gralats after a few months of me not being paid. Even staff who want to do stuff aren't able to because of scripting/management. I tried to bring back the SST, asked FR, was told I could, but never got the building or anything set up by him. Then I found out a monthish later that Cassie and Shmegg were going to, and that never happened either for most likely the same reasons. Just one of many examples.

That's sorta disappointing. Payment should be a luxury, not a thing that can be abused. And why was Fried Rice promoted in the first place? Aren't managers supposed to encourage the playerbase with things? I mean, c'mon people...

PigParty 04-28-2016 02:32 AM

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Posted by Shadeh13 (Post 699768)
That's sorta disappointing. Payment should be a luxury, not a thing that can be abused. And why was Fried Rice promoted in the first place? Aren't managers supposed to encourage the playerbase with things? I mean, c'mon people...

He was best friends with PD. That's why he was promoted from ZP in the first place. And that led to a long, undeserving trail of promotions.

Shadeh13 04-28-2016 02:34 AM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 699772)
He was best friends with PD. That's why he was promoted from ZP in the first place. And that led to a long, undeserving trail of promotions.

I dunno, I found him okay as a zp as I can recall. Wouldn't be Manager in my world though..

PigParty 04-28-2016 02:43 AM

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Posted by Shadeh13 (Post 699774)
I dunno, I found him okay as a zp as I can recall. Wouldn't be Manager in my world though..

He was active as a ZP, but as ZPC, he did 1 ban every 3 months or so. Yet he still got promoted to ZPA over Aero.

Shadeh13 04-28-2016 02:45 AM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 699777)
He was active as a ZP, but as ZPC, he did 1 ban every 3 months or so. Yet he still got promoted to ZPA over Aero.

Oh. Whats with every ZPC not really doing a... good job? Rebel comes to mind right now.

Howler Wulfskie 04-28-2016 05:16 AM

Zone is gonna end up in the pit hole again when the VIP were crappy hats, no new guns,no interesting things,no news update for a whole month, ect

He must be fked up if he think they can work with guns it's going to be WW1 all over again with these ZP, he needs to be fired apparently he not capable of running a server properly

This is why there's different categories for different jobs because different people have different skills for these jobs

imSupah 04-28-2016 01:24 PM

Wouldn't be suprised at this point if Zone was taken off the app store. Right now it's just hanging on life support. The people that really wanted to push Zone fowards gets fired and the ones who don't give two ****s can chill there. Amazing.

Unknown? 04-28-2016 04:01 PM

Wow this is BS m8s. ZPs control the gun stats now? We have the weapons admin for a reason. Those corrupted ZPs don't have any knowledge with guns. Just when I thought zones rising back up.... very disappointing. Geno's the last hope. F U to whoever fired Geno. (Sorry for the language. Had to say it. )

I need a new graal server to play now. Recommendations?

imSupah 04-28-2016 05:31 PM

^ Idk man, honestly I would just play Era or Classic. West turned to **** and it's pretty much just Era with a less playercount. They increased a lot of the weapon prices and nerfed the jobs so if you playing West, you might as well head to Era. Classic on the other hand is balanced since you all have the same weapons and you can pretty much just chill. I just wouldn't recommend Zone/Ol'West. Era is meh too but I guess I'm just saying that since I been playing since 2011 and got bored/tired of the **** community. Your choice though.

Cecily 04-28-2016 11:35 PM

zone doesn't seem to be doing that bad as you guys claim to be.

besides the new management is figuring things out.

GenoIndeed 04-28-2016 11:39 PM

How much did you get paid to say that?

Lol, for real tho, the more overall knowledge you have of zone, the more you'll understand how bad things are. Things are actually worse than we're making it.

Ghettoicedtea 04-28-2016 11:59 PM

Way worse

imSupah 04-29-2016 12:45 AM

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Posted by Cecily (Post 700056)
zone doesn't seem to be doing that bad as you guys claim to be.

besides the new management is figuring things out.

The fact that you're sucking up to Zone just shows me you have no clue how bad the server is right now. They are figuring things out? I didn't know that firing Geno, one who really striven to make Zone great, was figuring it out. I mean ****, he and GiT been there for awhile and both had ideas for the game but those were thrown down the trash when they got fired. Not to mention that we see Alex rarely using these forums and all these great ideas the community is giving is not even being noticed. I don't personally play Graal for now but I want Zone to succeed. I want it to be the futuristic server that players can hop on and expect great content. Instead, it's a half-assed server with barely any content and lazy staff that have no idea what they're doing. You know it's dun goofed up when you have the ZPs fiddling with weapon stats.

Shmegg 04-29-2016 12:48 AM

i feel like it's all ogre, boiz.....

imSupah 04-29-2016 12:49 AM

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Posted by Shmegg (Post 700085)
i feel like it's all ogre, boiz.....

https://static2.fjcdn.com/thumbnails...49c52f2350.jpg

Shadeh13 04-29-2016 01:52 AM

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Posted by xSupah* (Post 700081)
The fact that you're sucking up to Zone just shows me you have no clue how bad the server is right now. They are figuring things out? I didn't know that firing Geno, one who really striven to make Zone great, was figuring it out. I mean ****, he and GiT been there for awhile and both had ideas for the game but those were thrown down the trash when they got fired. Not to mention that we see Alex rarely using these forums and all these great ideas the community is giving is not even being noticed. I don't personally play Graal for now but I want Zone to succeed. I want it to be the futuristic server that players can hop on and expect great content. Instead, it's a half-assed server with barely any content and lazy staff that have no idea what they're doing. You know it's dun goofed up when you have the ZPs fiddling with weapon stats.

You know you dun goofed when we have 16 zps patrolling a 300 player server. Tch, they can't even do THAT right. HOST HOST HOST is all they do. We need someone to MAKE ZONE GREAT AGAIN!

#MZGA 2016

*Silver 04-29-2016 07:32 AM

mmm

Cecily 04-29-2016 09:46 AM

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Posted by Shadeh13 (Post 700106)
You know you dun goofed when we have 16 zps patrolling a 300 player server. Tch, they can't even do THAT right. HOST HOST HOST is all they do. We need someone to MAKE ZONE GREAT AGAIN!

#MZGA 2016

That would be an issue with the inactive old management and zone patrol captain not Carlito, it is bound to change and improve.. i find it too soon to decide that it's done.

PigParty 04-29-2016 12:15 PM

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Posted by Cecily (Post 700170)
That would be an issue with the inactive old management and zone patrol captain not Carlito, it is bound to change and improve.. i find it too soon to decide that it's done.

Geno was GA when inactive old ataff were managers. JS. I don't know if ZPs really are in charge or not, though.

Alexmo 04-29-2016 12:16 PM

Make zone great again by hiring Alexmo #Alexmo2016


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