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Posted by OG (Post 580699)

Also going to change these around a bit
people who should go up 1-2 leagues easily: Me, Droid, Striken, Toni, Sinatra, Joker, Sugar, Doublelift, Sergio, Wick, Mivka, Mau5, Contego (easily legendary), Rainmaker, Tykian, Koi, Skull, Zetectic, Kaios, Livid, Brad, vEagle, hmong, fro, baddy, roxas, bull.

Will be doing de-ranks soon.

Spoiler

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Posted by OG (Post 580694)

agreed lol I can beat quite a few on this list. and I didn't even get put in diamond.

Just going to bold people (not naming and shaming dw :)) That I either
A) have beaten before.
or
B) have beaten quite a bit.

Legendary: Brett, Thallen, Jack, Primetime, Winter, Dante, Majin, Sarah, Abood, Kevin, Comyt, David, Zid, Sean, Abel, PK, Male, Demrow, Aserus, Yui, Precise, Exalt, Noss, Smoke, Clops, Mk, Quiondre, Sol, T3ck.(Still finding more, but a lot still missing/off for a few days, est. 25-50)

Diamond: Chun, Max, Wick, Yami, Jojo, Ange, Mikva, Mau5, Tucker, Contego, Rainmaker, Arionna, Fulgore, John, Tykian, Mish, Koi, Skull, John, Zetectic, YD, Witch, Bob,Rex, Kaois, Crimewatcher, Kinzo, Luffy, Gambit, Cheesy, Junscen, Livid, Bradd, Nixon, Death, Deus, Carly, Advocate, Lr, Kouji, vEagle, Falcon, Dark, Haze, Qes, Hmong, Fro, Baddy King, Roxas, Mex, Inco, Jiggy, Bull, Klay, Phios (Still finding more, est.50-100)

Gold: Red, Soren, Hitoru, Droid, Blaze, Danny, Striken, Korin, Sharp, Toni, Sinatra, Squiggles, Jason, Nattie, David m, Slayer, Ezio, Call, Bear Loach, Flash, Snow, Joker, Void, Lia, Goten, Ale, Michael, Alex R, S****, Prince, Roxy, Den, Intimidation, Papi, Uranus, Neptune, Elesis, 3xcite, DoubleLift, Sergio, Xion, Realm, Roller, Sugar, Memo, Jimbo (Still finding more, I have been inactive, and I don't know 80% of the spar community, est. 100-250)

His list is only an example, quit crying because you weren't placed where you wish you were.

#4. Its what made League and Dota 2 famous, its system is what makes people come back to keep playing and climb the ranks. The usual and only down side I can think of are the smurf/second accounts by pro sparrers who'll take advantage of #4 system. The current and the old system werent that good imo. Pretty sure some old sparrers from before would agree we were fine way before a leaderboard system showed up

I think you guys are trying too hard
Graal is a casual, social game
half the fun of sparring is the social experience that it provides
let's not overcomplicate it

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Posted by Kevin91 (Post 580647)

- Players with 5000+ wins may only queue in the mixed room

- Players must have at least 500 wins to queue in the mixed room

- Side/quick spar rooms are for players with 999 wins or less

- iDevice room is for players with 1000-4999 wins (they can still queue in the mixed room if they choose)

- A section on the leaderboard shaming anyone with 5000+ wins who tries to queue in side rooms (names erased weekly). even though they would be unable to queue there, an attempt to queue still shows they're selective sparrers.

This would at least keep complete noobs out of the mixed room and selective sparrers out of the side rooms. Those are a few things I would like fixed for spar. not sure what to do about the leaderboard system though

- And a room for delayers

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Posted by Thallen (Post 580752)

I think you guys are trying too hard
Graal is a casual, social game
half the fun of sparring is the social experience that it provides
let's not overcomplicate it

Part of trying "too hard" is how the world evolves, and like I put in OP at the bottom... player matches = casual.

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Posted by KuyaGabeGraal (Post 580750)

#4. Its what made League and Dota 2 famous

Yes, both great games. I have tried both. I'm no good at them though :D

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Posted by CrimeWatcher (Post 580747)

I like #4, but like most said, #2 will be more reasonable/doable.

People can just vote for #4, and if that can't happen(at least not for months/maybe years), then I believe system 2 would be the most preferable choice by the community + an awards system.

I'm just saying that the Graal sparring community isn't nearly big enough for some type of queued matchmaking
if it was then this would be a cool idea probably, but even then I don't think it's the direction that staff want sparring to go in (because Graal is so damn casual)

anyway, this MMR thing would be infinitely better than dumbing down the leaderboard to just "total wins"
put me in God tier with Brett though so we can be alone together :shy:

kevin91's idea is pretty good, its already how it is for the most part so why not make it official

We kinda need more support for #4 to happen so people wont constantly argue whos the best and whos not but yeah it'll be awhile for something like this to happen since the staff do lack the needs to implement this system.

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Posted by Thallen (Post 580762)

primetime would be up there too

ya, for iDevice
just messing around though

the tier lists are more interesting than the leaderboard ideas

Hikaru

Demote the following
Legendary: Sean, Contego, PK, T3ck

Diamond:, Max, Mau5, Mish, Zetectic, Kaois, Crimewatcher, Junscen, Livid, Nixon, Carly, Falcon, Alex R, Gator, Alex K

!!

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Posted by Darkk (Post 580814)

Demote the following

No one is getting demoted, because the list will be based on what I have seen throught constistency and not just someone having a good day/bad day. Besides the list is just an example for the xxxth time

Um everyone should start at bronze, no hand outs pls.
I would really appreciate number four with t eh teirs.
And on your status page your tier would be displayed?

Number of spar rooms in accordance its ranks? Two rooms for each rank?

Could this be implemented with GS? Only with less tiers liek, three for guilds?

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Posted by Multipass (Post 580823)

The tier is already based as an example for the end of a season.
Possibly.
No limit = Instant matches
Probably, if GS was more active, but since it is not an independent system for now at least then now. The only way I would see this working with gs is by auto matching you with random people and you verse a team who was also auto matched. You could also set up a party/guild, and search for matches. If gs were that popular after gst is done. During gst I can see it being popular for instant matches, plus it would prevent teams from boosting... honestly a tier system for gs would pretty much cancel out gst imo, since it would be skill based.

I'll try to make an example on what the system could look like today, and add to op.