Half of the GP's don't care about their job and making the server better and safer, since all the reports they get is "he called me a naymmm!" so i don't see why there hiring like a dozen GP's when they might be doing stuff Matt does'n't know. This is all my opinion and what admins i want is more scripters and LAT's.

I'd assume since an application is usually legally binding,
and companies probably don't want you doing things while
you are helping out for free.
(stealing, messing with things, other legalities)

If you'd like, feel free to think of it as a crappy internship
where you go to work for a company without being paid
since they have the option to pay you or not.

As for companies paying... well I've seen more companies
hire people as volunteer like Pokemon TD, and a few other
RPG type games, but since I can't remember their names,
I suppose they can't be used. At least on Pokemon TD what
I was told was it was for free and you could apply, but I'm
sure they might get a little something on the side, free
pokemon or customization things...

Take a look at Second Life.

I don't know, I guess I see nothing wrong with only allowing
a select few of volunteers, and actually knowing a little about
them before I take them in.

What you see:
http://images.clipartof.com/small/22...Money-Sign.jpg

What they see:
http://commissarydeals.com/wp-conten...ign-797711.gif

They don't pay you for making graphics or complaining with 13 year olds sir

Even though not everyone would have a gold account i do recommend going here
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...splay.php?f=55
Has a lot of tutorials and I can say there are very experienced players willing to help others (if you are able to post)

Would be cool to have a development forum part for people interested in GFX/Levels/Scripts /Gani/Sounds

I think, that if you are working for a company, and this is your job, you should get paid real money. Because getting paid in gelats? Wtf bs.

or complaining with 13 year olds sir
That is exactly why you shouldn't do it...
That is exactly why I didn't do it.

You know Nike paid $35 to a college student to create their logo?
The brilliant college student created a wonderful logo having to do
with the icon of the Greek God Athena and her swift victories...

How much is Nike worth now?

As an artist, especially a freelancer, you need to learn how to do business.
Others are more worried about making a living than to get the best deals..

If you create it, and don't want it given to free,
don't have someone upload it.

I've only created art for Frontier and Shaded Legends,
the only thing I made for iClassic were things my guild could use.

I saw no point in wasting my time or services creating things I
could otherwise be paid for elsewhere.

Why create for a game that would own all
rights to my creative ideas and graphics? :]



Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

If admins want money they can find a real job, thats their choice to not get paid , if they want money they can quit staff team

BurgerBatman is obviously the best...

Holy **** a smart person, who isn't rambling about how staff have lives and deserve a pay for there hard hard life :o

Just so happens that I'm the best ever.

Thanks for getting this thread tremendously off topic. We were talking about how corrupt and unhelpful staff are.

Arichi is a good GP too. She has always answered pms.

Hmph. Since when does a volunteer staff member do stuff by own will? People have lives n dont wanna waste time making gfx for children. And either way, xor has to approve EVERYTHING before its sold/released

Enough said^. So people who complain about how staff doesn't get paid and shouldn't have to do much for us plz stfu they volunteer for the positions they know what there getting into.

O snap!
Lets not forget Skyld n Taylor n Jezzle n people
*applaudes*

But there isn't much to talk about,
it happens. x.X;

Most of the people talking about it
would love to be staff, and they
would do the same things.

You should talk about how they can improve,
which they won't listen to of course, but at
least you would then be trying to help them.