Vote Yes: If you want to keep things the way they are.
Vote No: If you want to see this proposal put into effect.

Lately I've been getting complaints about the way shotguns deal damage.
Examples of such complaints are:

"Shotgun needs nerfed its same thing as PBP only cheaper"
"nerf PBP its too overpowered"
"why'd you nerf PBP it sucks now I want my money back"
"pbp still needs nerfing its too powerful in bases"
"meph im serious i cant believe u broke pbp that much i got it for christmas now i wish i would have gotten new cellphone instead"

Etcetera, Etcetera.
(For the record, I still think the PBP is overpowered.)

Let me start by stating this: I don't like the way shotguns function. I said this back in 2010, and I'll say it now: bullets shouldn't deal damage in that fashion. It's too overpowered, even if each bullet possesses minimal damage. Damage shouldn't be stacked.

Shotguns back in my day were fine. Bullets didn't stack damage(unless on doors), they dealt damage that competed with a rifle, and their practical use was to utilize the spread and multiple bullets to simultaneously control the margins between the bullets. Nowadays shotguns are used more as a close-range weapon to take cheap hits that deal an unnecessary and unfair amount of damage.

Also, if shotguns didn't stack, they would have more deviation of stat trade-off, similar to the way rifles and handguns trade stats. Right now, bullet-stacking shotguns can't really be too different from one another:

• Damage can only deal 2-4 damage,
• The rate of fire and freeze has to be extremely slow because of the unruly stacked damage,
• Spread really has no effect because people don't use it for long-range.

It's because of this, that I get complaints about lower-tier shotguns competing with higher-tier shotguns.

With this proposal to not stack damage and given the current freeze/fire rate stats, a rough estimate of damage would be as follows

• PBP Shotgun - About 9 damage
• M3 Shotgun - About 7 damage
• Shotgun - About 5 damage

Given PBP's ridiculous price, and iEra's mentality of Pay2Win, PBP Would also be reverted to having 24 clip, and its fire rate would likely be reverted aswell.  

I believe that this change would be wonderful, it would allow the PBP to still a high tier gun and well worth the money, while also not allowing you to "purchase victory" I can see a lot more customization available to future shotguns with a system like this in place.  

Yes finnaly this has been made  

Stacking ruined shotguns. Made them too powerful . And with the damage being relatively high still people can't complain.  

No stacked damage. Instead, maybe add a "critical damage" multiplier to them if they are close up shots. Maybe you have a one in three or one in four chance of getting a +50% damage increase for that shot. It seems kinda weird that a shotgun would do the same damage up close than it does far away, given damage isn't stacked.  

I just don't know what to say to Meph. Meph really listens to feedback. You are doing a good job with gun balancing.  

No stack damage  

What the-? Is this an old thread? What's done is done.

I've stopped playing era all together for this very reason, you guys can't keep your panties on straight with the weapons. You cheat people out of their money and you guys suck.

Posted by BabyGhost

I just don't know what to say to Meph. Meph really listens to feedback. You are doing a good job with gun balancing.

No. He's not you Lemming.  

Posted by Richard

Is this an old thread?.

No, considering it was made today.  

The pbp sucks I want my money back I got outshot by damn dual water pistols! Pbp should be at least normal 4 damage its close range and has 4 bullets people barely get hit by all the bullets anyways also there going different directions and why would you stand in front of a pbp use some real life common sense a shotgun you would be blasted away against a ww2 gun... Seriously stop ruining the shotguns just because you dont have one. Everyone says the pbp is too op and you keep nerfing it but you do nothing about the bar yet its op bar v pbp is a good match so stop whining and nerfing it  

Posted by Banshee

The pbp sucks I want my money back

Posted by Banshee

stop whining

Hypocrite  

I said no for Pbp, but I still like my Blunder Bass  

Posted by Alan Harper

Hypocrite

I said stop whining for it to be nerfed I'm not whining for it to be nerfed im complaining cause it sucks..  

How does a gun dealing 16dmg suck? Just because it doesn't out class every other gun now doesn't mean it sucks.  

The pvp should stay the same as advertised. It should be 4 damage a bullet with stacked damage. The people who bought it, bought it for that attribute, they didn't buy it for 9 damage. Keep it the same, and no, I don't own a pbp.