Russia has 150,000 soldiers outside the border, NATO is holding a security meeting today to decide on the course of action, US already stated they would get involved if Putin did not pull back.

Russia has broken international law, they are an obvious threat. The allied forces see this and will not just let it slide.

Update: Unidentified military ship has just been spotted off the coast of Sevastopol, thought to be US but most likely more Russian's.  

Posted by Colin

Crono, the people of Ukraine are no longer revolting, they have a new president and got the government they wanted.

For the war part, UN and NATO are getting involved as we speak, Russia was warned action would be taken against them yet they stated they don't care and approved military action could be taken by Putin.

20,000 troops and warships as well as several vehicles is not just "meddling" it is an invasion, let us not forget Russia has broken several agreements and international law because of this as well.

UN does ****all and I doubt NATO will drag everyone into a war against Russia of all countries. They most they'll probably do is set up sanctions and try to force Russia to back off.

Posted by Rotaruc

Do you not understand that Ukraine is its own country and Its independance should be respected?... No one should be allowed to send 20,000 troops and warships to meddle with anyone lol. And if I were in charge of NATO I would take action. Russia does not like the idea of Ukraine becoming a democracy. Their reason for taking military action is to protect the russian people in crimea but thats bs.

No ****, but it's not surprising considering they owned Ukraine for a century. The Ukraine had a democracy, people called corruption on the results and revolted. I'm not saying Russia is in the right, but the way people act all surprised is ******ed.

WW3 isn't going to break out.  

Hopefully the war stays between Russia and Ukraine.  

Posted by Colin

Hopefully the war stays between Russia and Ukraine.

There probably won't be a war but I'm not sure how the EU will respond if there is. For the people wondering, neither nation are part of NATO or the EU. They are part of the UN but the UN is a joke. I too hope things run their course and other nations stay out of it. Russia has a lot to lose, and if the Western world turn their backs on Russia then either their people will protest/revolt or Russia gets fisted back into the Soviet era.

There's a Russian Dota joke to be had somewhere here, I'm jut not creative enough.  

I think at the very least Russia will be removed from the G-8, and possibly the World Trade Center if they start war.  

Posted by Colin

Hopefully the war stays between Russia and Ukraine.

that wouldn't be a war, but more like a takeover.

Russia is just mad the world was making fun of their Olympic hosting conditions, they will back down eventually once the US master race checks them.  

Posted by Colin

I think at the very least Russia will be removed from the G-8, and possibly the World Trade Center if they start war.

Just did some reading and Obama is pretty much going to do what I thought, greater isolation. I should also point out to people that it's not like they're marching armies into all of the Ukraine, for some reason Putin wants Crimea.

This entire situation is hilarious because the US basically did the same thing but worse with Iraq, and then have the audacity to speak out against Russia. Luckily Iraq is some ****hole no one cares about.  

Posted by Mejico Jøsh

If ****s hits the fan here im hoping Cameron does not intervene and charge head first with the americans because Britain would be screwed

America is a good ally for Britain. Britain has a long standing reputation of being involved in world affairs so it is very likely that we will be involved whatever happens.

Posted by Crono

Just did some reading and Obama is pretty much going to do what I thought, greater isolation. I should also point out to people that it's not like they're marching armies into all of the Ukraine, for some reason Putin wants Crimea.

This entire situation is hilarious because the US basically did the same thing but worse with Iraq, and then have the audacity to speak out against Russia. Luckily Iraq is some ****hole no one cares about.

Putin was granted permission from the Russian parliament to use forces in all of the Ukraine if he wants. He hasn't yet but could well start.

As for Iraq that is a whole different situation. That was for oil and to get rid of a terrorist haven led by tyrant who was attacking allies of the West. The Crimea is not a terrorist haven or attacking Russian allies.  

Posted by lord greg

America is a good ally for Britain. Britain has a long standing reputation of being involved in world affairs so it is very likely that we will be involved whatever happens.



Putin was granted permission from the Russian parliament to use forces in all of the Ukraine if he wants. He hasn't yet but could well start.

As for Iraq that is a whole different situation. That was for oil and to get rid of a terrorist haven led by tyrant who was attacking allies of the West. The Crimea is not a terrorist haven or attacking Russian allies.

2,000(around that) civilians killed in 9/11, 100,000 civilians killed in numerous unjustified attacks on Iraq.

Attacking a country over oil is far worse than Russia trying to take control of a country where the majority of people are of Russian ethnic.

However, Iraq is a whole different discussion and opinion base so I am going to avoid that debate.  

Posted by lord greg

America is a good ally for Britain.

lol no sh1t, its obvious that the most powerful country in the world would be a good ally.

Posted by lord greg

As for Iraq that is a whole different situation. That was for oil

yes

Posted by lord greg

and to get rid of a terrorist haven led by tyrant who was attacking allies of the West.

this was just one of the excuses we used to get to the oil along with WOMD.  

Also, it just isn't Iraq, the US has intervened in several countries where they had no reason.  

Posted by Colin

2,000(around that) civilians killed in 9/11, 100,000 civilians killed in numerous unjustified attacks on Iraq.

what is that have to do with Iraq?

Posted by Colin

Also, it just isn't Iraq, the US has intervened in several countries where they had no reason.

personal self interest is a reason. Americans don't attack/help because they want to help but because they have to protect certain interest. Do you know why Afghanistan Taliban were using American weapons to attack Americans?  

Posted by GOAT

lol no sh1t, its obvious that the most powerful country in the world would be a good ally.



yes



this was just one of the excuses we used to get to the oil along with WOMD.

We founded modern America. We created the monster... But anyway America is a much better ally than Russia. Nato won the cold war so this should be much simpler.

But Russia is digging trenches in northern Crimea. Sounds like they are aiming to occupy it for the foreseeable future.  

Posted by GOAT

what is that have to do with Iraq?



personal self interest is a reason. Americans don't attack/help because they want to help but because they have to protect certain interest. Do you know why Afghanistan Taliban were using American weapons to attack Americans?

America created the Taliban and funded all their weapons and such.  

Posted by Colin

2,000(around that) civilians killed in 9/11, 100,000 civilians killed in numerous unjustified attacks on Iraq.

Attacking a country over oil is far worse than Russia trying to take control of a country where the majority of people are of Russian ethnic.

However, Iraq is a whole different discussion and opinion base so I am going to avoid that debate.

Oil is very important. Plastics, medicine and other products rely on oil, without it a modern country could collapse. Wars over oil are much more justified than people think.