Posted by reyalS

Once again Higbey, capitalism is king; if you don't like it: go play something else. Also, I thought you hated Xor, since when did you start blaming all of your problems on Stefan and Unixmad? Stop complaining and go play something else.

How about shut up and stop complaining about my complaining? You guys say I whine, then whine about how I whine.how about you all follow your own ******ed mindset and leave if you don't like it?  

Posted by Higbey

How about shut up and stop complaining about my complaining? You guys say I whine, then whine about how I whine.how about you all follow your own ******ed mindset and leave if you don't like it?

Atleast they can provide proof not pulled from their arse  

Posted by Mr.$imons

2. If u dont like the way graal is going quit, dont come on and cry about it.

You know that will never work... besides complaining has very much become a part of graal lol.
I've been witness to some of stefans objectionable changes, the majority of the time all the complaints are ignored no matter how many people have a problem.

The point I'm trying to make is complainers will keep on complaining but don't have the heart to quit graal, however if customer satisfaction was met this would promote Graals image so it might grow to some day have a player base so you could be proud and say that you were part of the first 1000 players, at this rate however it's not looking as though this will ever be the case.

Directed at stefan(if he ever see's this):Look at minecraft and take a note....  

Posted by Tricxta

You know that will never work...

I know... just advise, it cant be that hard to quit though....can it?  

*cough* Here comes the voice of reason *cough*
Everyone that has posted here (well as far to I have read which was like page 6) has a valid point. The thing is you are all going about it the wrong way. You want results of something you don't like? Don't post it on a forum. What exactly did you think this would do? I highly doubt Stephan or Unixmad will look on here, read this thread and suddenly decide "oh hey let's reduce prices " What you could be doing instead is email or talking to Stephan directly tell him your concerns, present him with facts: NOT BIASED OPINION, and ask your friends to do so also. If they see the legit proof that the customers are unsatisfied and want more then maybe it will happen. Business is supply/demand. You demand more, hopefully you will be supplied. But posting in a forum where they will probably NEVER look is not the best idea. Complaining to administrators will NOT work. Why? They have no control. They are here to practically babysit and develop the game. Stephan and Unixmad are the mommy and daddy and therefore are the ones that should be complained to. Blaming administrator for high pricing is unfair to them seeing as they only try to help and are only going with the orders they are given.

On the other hand....

Twinny and NYN, seriously, you call them kids yet you can't even handle the situation maturely. All I see is trolling, rude comments, and seriously immaturity. Yes you speak the truth to an extent. But there is always a better way to say something or go about getting your point across. Not I know you'll probably reply with "you're stupid stfu kid" or something along those lines but as a person who rarely plays iClassic looking in on this convo, I am not sure I would want the people administrating the game I play behaving as such. But maybe that is just me? Not to diss on you guys, but you don’t need to get all butt hurt over a thread. It's not like it’s going to make you lose your unpaid job.

Alas...

Don’t like the game? Two options. Don’t play or complain to the right people.  

Posted by Jester Lapse

Don’t like the game? Two options. Don’t play or complain to the right people.

Thats a poor suggestion, people have a better chance of stefan/unixmad seeing there disapproval (perhaps the word might get out and direct stefan/unixmads attention towards the mistake they've made) here then anywhere unless there willing to pay so they can complain on the graalonline server which is... (im not even going to say...)
The post count in this thread in such a short time is proof that they have a made a mistake which isn't disliked by the odd person but rather the majority of those on this forum.  

Posted by Tricxta

Thats a poor suggestion, people have a better chance of stefan/unixmad seeing there disapproval (perhaps the word might get out and direct stefan/unixmads attention towards the mistake they've made) here then anywhere unless there willing to pay so they can complain on the graalonline server which is... (im not even going to say...)
The post count in this thread in such a short time is proof that they have a made a mistake which isn't disliked by the odd person but rather the majority of those on this forum.

actually if you take the time to email them they will read it. you know why? cuz no one else emails them with complaints lol  

Posted by Jester Lapse

actually if you take the time to email them they will read it. you know why? cuz no one else emails them with complaints lol

How do you know... as it is stefan doesnt even respond to private messages on official forums which is a known fact... how do you think he goes about emails from angry players? You don't know what goes on, nor do I to the full extent hence your advice isn't going to get anyone very far...  

Posted by Jester Lapse

*cough* Here comes the voice of reason *cough*
Everyone that has posted here (well as far to I have read which was like page 6) has a valid point. The thing is you are all going about it the wrong way. You want results of something you don't like? Don't post it on a forum. What exactly did you think this would do? I highly doubt Stephan or Unixmad will look on here, read this thread and suddenly decide "oh hey let's reduce prices " What you could be doing instead is email or talking to Stephan directly tell him your concerns, present him with facts: NOT BIASED OPINION, and ask your friends to do so also. If they see the legit proof that the customers are unsatisfied and want more then maybe it will happen. Business is supply/demand. You demand more, hopefully you will be supplied. But posting in a forum where they will probably NEVER look is not the best idea. Complaining to administrators will NOT work. Why? They have no control. They are here to practically babysit and develop the game. Stephan and Unixmad are the mommy and daddy and therefore are the ones that should be complained to. Blaming administrator for high pricing is unfair to them seeing as they only try to help and are only going with the orders they are given.

On the other hand....

Twinny and NYN, seriously, you call them kids yet you can't even handle the situation maturely. All I see is trolling, rude comments, and seriously immaturity. Yes you speak the truth to an extent. But there is always a better way to say something or go about getting your point across. Not I know you'll probably reply with "you're stupid stfu kid" or something along those lines but as a person who rarely plays iClassic looking in on this convo, I am not sure I would want the people administrating the game I play behaving as such. But maybe that is just me? Not to diss on you guys, but you don’t need to get all butt hurt over a thread. It's not like it’s going to make you lose your unpaid job.

Alas...

Don’t like the game? Two options. Don’t play or complain to the right people.

Well said Jester, way to represent era :d  

Posted by NCJohn

Well said Jester, way to represent era :d

 

I've tried that. They never respond to the emails and just block your email like the classic iPhone email does. I also have a feeling that they don't Even read our emails.  

Posted by Higbey

I've tried that. They never respond to the emails and just block your email like the classic iPhone email does. I also have a feeling that they don't Even read our emails.

Hmm, well i only have experiance with iEra and they ALWAYS read emails. I just figured classic would do the same? guess not, but anyways the point remains true. No one that can actualy do anything about this will even glance at this.  

The point was to get a staff to grow a pair and tell Stefan. Get a backbone instead of just saying yes ad agreeing with everything they say like a puppet. If he is gonna listen to anyone it would be one of his staff.  

Posted by Higbey

The point was to get a staff to grow a pair and tell Stefan. Get a backbone instead of just saying yes ad agreeing with everything they say like a puppet. If he is gonna listen to anyone it would be one of his staff.

another valid point. but take into consideration most staff don't really know or experiance what you guys complain about so to them it's "whine cry bich"  

@2 people whose names I don't care to remember... I'm not sure how I'm being immature. People here seem to just throw that that term around along with "OMG YOU'RE IN YOUR 20's AND YOU PLAY GRAAL" as a last attempt of a comeback from a weak argument. It's irrelevant why any of us choose to play the game and it's incredibly rude and uncalled for to criticize someone's hobbies when you don't know the person in the least bit. To me, THAT's immature, because if you had a more open mind about it, like an adult would, you wouldn't go around blaming both parties to make yourself seem more superior. You aren't (Jester). And just a btw, offering a disclaimer warning us of a "voice of reason" is an incredibly insecure way of influencing people to listen to what you have to say. If you had a good argument, your argument would speak for itself. You wouldn't have to put yourself on a pedestal because you feel no one has offered a diplomatic position yet.

But anyway this thread and argument is over since it has gotten incredibly rude. Don't feel like deleting all the offensive statements so... Argument is over.

Winner: Lia05 by a landslide.