Another Shield Disproved... - 2

Narcosis · 09-27-2014

I've always been a bit confused by this as well. The copyrighted material isn't being used to make a profit. And let's not forget the most obvious fact; that the whole design of Graal Classic is based off Graal The Adventure which is completely derived from Zelda: LttP.

Also, like I said before, there are tons of shields & swords that are clearly based on different copyrighted material from several different games or series' (Halo, Kingdom Hearts, ZELDA, Mario, Soul Calibur, Minecraft, ZELDA, Dragonball Z, Pokemon, ZELDA, Star Wars, etc). And that's just off the top of my head.

So, yeah, I'm a little confused

Dusty · 09-27-2014

Posted by LemmyKoopa

It's fair use.

It is not fair use.

LemmyKoopa · 09-28-2014

Posted by Narcosis

I've always been a bit confused by this as well. The copyrighted material isn't being used to make a profit. And let's not forget the most obvious fact; that the whole design of Graal Classic is based off Graal The Adventure which is completely derived from Zelda: LttP.

Also, like I said before, there are tons of shields & swords that are clearly based on different copyrighted material from several different games or series' (Halo, Kingdom Hearts, ZELDA, Mario, Soul Calibur, Minecraft, ZELDA, Dragonball Z, Pokemon, ZELDA, Star Wars, etc). And that's just off the top of my head.

So, yeah, I'm a little confused

I agree completely. There are default heads in the game that are already related to something copyright.

Posted by Dusty

It is not fair use.

What is it then? It's not copyright infringement either.

I made a point in another topic about how the server has images uploaded to the server that people put in their profile that are more blantant copyright images than anything, sprite rips and other direct images, as opposed to someone making their own image based on something.

4-Lom · 09-29-2014

Can the outcome of this prominent issue PLEASE be direct communication
with the administrator involved in accepting and/or disapproving custom uploads?
I would even volunteer to undergo training and take part in the process...
It would save EVERYONE who has anything to do with the submissions process
time and effort!

MisaChan · 09-29-2014

Please post the Shield and I might help you edit it.

(O btw... Why is it copy infrigment when some admins make Hats of other game but with a graal style... just curious)

LemmyKoopa · 10-01-2014

Ugh, well looks like I better work on redesigning my head then.

Honestly, Misa, I think it's hypocracy to state that we can't make our own design based on a character and yet we have other stuff on the server that is even more of an "infringement" of anything copyright.

I've argued this with UN and their blatant Super Mushroom NPC and I'll argue it here too. They've finally dropped the upload restriction years back and no one is complaining.

Just reject any sprite rips or anything that blatant. Everything else is fan art and has no direct cause for profiting graal and is not illegal.

4-Lom · 10-01-2014

Then the turtle came to the party...

MisaChan · 10-01-2014

Posted by LemmyKoopa

Ugh, well looks like I better work on redesigning my head then.

Honestly, Misa, I think it's hypocracy to state that we can't make our own design based on a character and yet we have other stuff on the server that is even more of an "infringement" of anything copyright.

I've argued this with UN and their blatant Super Mushroom NPC and I'll argue it here too. They've finally dropped the upload restriction years back and no one is complaining.

Just reject any sprite rips or anything that blatant. Everything else is fan art and has no direct cause for profiting graal and is not illegal.

Chill.. i think.. c;
I think your right.

LemmyKoopa · 10-01-2014

Posted by MisaChan

Chill.. i think.. c;
I think your right.

Well I was excited to get my head uploaded but I'm going to have to go through a bunch of tweaks in my outfit that was already fine in the first place.

I have nothing against the staff/admins, but I just think their stance on this is overkill, and possibly hypocritical on grounds that I've stated previously.

Can you explain to me what you mean by making it Graal-like?

MisaChan · 10-01-2014

there just... too... dumb.

graal style... aa. c:

LemmyKoopa · 10-01-2014

Posted by MisaChan

there just... too... dumb.

graal style... aa. c:

It's probably the whole Zelda Online incident.
That was years ago, and it wasn't just blatant, it was exact and 100% infringement. The whole salespoint was based on being Zelda.

At least I HEARD, many times, that this was once called Zelda Online during some point.

That's obviously Stefan's fault, or whoever made that choice. Taking the WHOLE idea, every bit and every aspect, is what caused them to get in trouble. No one is going to care about small images made by other people.

It's like filing a lawsuit because a forum has avatars with copyright characters.

eevee2 · 10-07-2014

Honestly I don't see why everyone is getting so worked up about this, just be creative and make something that no one has ever seen, be imaginative.
Otherwise you're kind of just doing like everyone else: taking things coming from someone else imagination in the beginning.
Sure, the game has alot of zelda content, but how does that mean that you can?
It's not like if you wouldn't be able to create something by your own.
But it is true though that heads, bodies, shield and swords coming from other games wouldn't be that much of a problem, the only thing is to not exagerate which always happen.

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4-Lom Registered Old Person Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Graal City Restaurant Posts: 4,742	Then the turtle came to the party... Attached Images

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Narcosis I Amuse Myself Join Date: May 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 694	I've always been a bit confused by this as well. The copyrighted material isn't being used to make a profit. And let's not forget the most obvious fact; that the whole design of Graal Classic is based off Graal The Adventure which is completely derived from Zelda: LttP. Also, like I said before, there are tons of shields & swords that are clearly based on different copyrighted material from several different games or series' (Halo, Kingdom Hearts, ZELDA, Mario, Soul Calibur, Minecraft, ZELDA, Dragonball Z, Pokemon, ZELDA, Star Wars, etc). And that's just off the top of my head. So, yeah, I'm a little confused

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4-Lom Registered Old Person Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Graal City Restaurant Posts: 4,742	Can the outcome of this prominent issue PLEASE be direct communication with the administrator involved in accepting and/or disapproving custom uploads? I would even volunteer to undergo training and take part in the process... It would save EVERYONE who has anything to do with the submissions process time and effort!

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MisaChan Banned Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Under your Bed Posts: 670	Please post the Shield and I might help you edit it. (O btw... Why is it copy infrigment when some admins make Hats of other game but with a graal style... just curious)

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LemmyKoopa Registered User Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 64	Ugh, well looks like I better work on redesigning my head then. Honestly, Misa, I think it's hypocracy to state that we can't make our own design based on a character and yet we have other stuff on the server that is even more of an "infringement" of anything copyright. I've argued this with UN and their blatant Super Mushroom NPC and I'll argue it here too. They've finally dropped the upload restriction years back and no one is complaining. Just reject any sprite rips or anything that blatant. Everything else is fan art and has no direct cause for profiting graal and is not illegal.

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eevee2 The Untamable Tiger Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Insomnia land Posts: 594	Honestly I don't see why everyone is getting so worked up about this, just be creative and make something that no one has ever seen, be imaginative. Otherwise you're kind of just doing like everyone else: taking things coming from someone else imagination in the beginning. Sure, the game has alot of zelda content, but how does that mean that you can? It's not like if you wouldn't be able to create something by your own. But it is true though that heads, bodies, shield and swords coming from other games wouldn't be that much of a problem, the only thing is to not exagerate which always happen.