Posted by *Prey

jesus christ. Do you remember the poll to let players decide if the map should be pk? yes had more votes than no, everybody was excited, the map then become pk. it was later but back to non-pk without a reason and 50 B**** threads were brought up about it. With the way its looking, its gonna be added, but then tooken away for no reason.

I wasn't the person who removed the player killing on the server though. I was the person 'worry[ing] about [the] players who actually do something productive in the game other than the players who online date at the burger refuge and the rate my gp'ers' and set it off. Like I said, the poll is there for a reason. Don't bark at the wrong people.  

As much as I would love to see quests for hearts like there were in the old PC Classic, I don't see it working out too well on iClassic. I would rather there be usable items as quest rewards as opposed to hearts. If you start adding hearts and sword upgrades into the game, the questing becomes a mandatory part of the game, and there are going to be lots of people who are going to want to spar, pk, and take towers, but really have no interest whatsoever in questing.  

Posted by -Albus

As much as I would love to see quests for hearts like there were in the old PC Classic, I don't see it working out too well on iClassic. I would rather there be usable items as quest rewards as opposed to hearts. If you start adding hearts and sword upgrades into the game, the questing becomes a mandatory part of the game, and there are going to be lots of people who are going to want to spar, pk, and take towers, but really have no interest whatsoever in questing.

There are only so many items that you can give away in quests before things begin to get unbalanced. After we run out of items like the Hammer and Boomerang (that don't change much on the server) what are we supposed to do? Give away gani animations as quest prizes? Hats? Or just not bother and continue with the safe hat shop updates? I am far more interested in introducing gameplay and based on the players that are sitting around doing nothing at all, the players on Facebook who are constantly whining and putting Classic down, and those who feel the need to review it on iTunes and complain about a lack of purpose and direction, I think it's the way forward.

People assume that there isn't going to be any balance, or that the current features on the server are going to be ignored and thus change in a way that is completely alien. That is not the intention in this at all, and I don't believe that we are stupid enough to promote that. People believe, because Era iPhone sells guns for $90 that it's what Classic has to do, and again this is an incorrect mindset. I've posted this on Facebook already, but I really believe that people need to start viewing Classic with more of an open mind.  

Posted by -Albus

As much as I would love to see quests for hearts like there were in the old PC Classic, I don't see it working out too well on iClassic. I would rather there be usable items as quest rewards as opposed to hearts. If you start adding hearts and sword upgrades into the game, the questing becomes a mandatory part of the game, and there are going to be lots of people who are going to want to spar, pk, and take towers, but really have no interest whatsoever in questing.

i dont get what you mean by "dont have interest in questing" when all players have been asking for was a trade system and quest. currently 94 players say we should get the heart quest, and 19 say we shouldnt.  

Posted by Rufus

wat

Could you give a response to my post?
I'm interested in how it would work.  

Posted by Rexx

Could you give a response to my post?
I'm interested in how it would work.

There are a few different routes that could be taken, incorporating AP, having HP caps on things such as spars, towers, introducing new weapons, etc. We haven't started planning anything though; it's not really up to the staff in whether it'll be added or not. Until we know that it's something that we'd have permission to pursue and something that players are interested in there really is no point.  

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm a quest you say? wait! but its going to interfere with my pking?! *bangs head on keyboard* FJEKDKEODOSKDJEKSOEKDNDKEODKDNWPWPWEIEKSKDNDKWOSOW PEMDNSOAOWSDDNSKSODNSKSKDKDKWNWOWODNNDDNEKWOWODKEM WMSKSOSWOWKDKDNS
NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0...e_gdata_player
this is so LoZ. and besides, theres already burgers n crap for extra health!

by all means, plz come up with a good non-hat-prized quest, but not this one!  

I am not pursuing questing at all if there are no hearts involved. I'm guessing that Azrael could do a few more gardens though.  

Posted by Rufus

I am not pursuing questing at all if there are no hearts involved. I'm guessing that Azrael could do a few more gardens though.

Please no more quests like that...  

Posted by Rufus

There are only so many items that you can give away in quests before things begin to get unbalanced. After we run out of items like the Hammer and Boomerang (that don't change much on the server) what are we supposed to do? Give away gani animations as quest prizes? Hats? Or just not bother and continue with the safe hat shop updates? I am far more interested in introducing gameplay and based on the players that are sitting around doing nothing at all, the players on Facebook who are constantly whining and putting Classic down, and those who feel the need to review it on iTunes and complain about a lack of purpose and direction, I think it's the way forward.

People assume that there isn't going to be any balance, or that the current features on the server are going to be ignored and thus change in a way that is completely alien. That is not the intention in this at all, and I don't believe that we are stupid enough to promote that. People believe, because Era iPhone sells guns for $90 that it's what Classic has to do, and again this is an incorrect mindset. I've posted this on Facebook already, but I really believe that people need to start viewing Classic with more of an open mind.

I agree, adding quests definitely is the way forward, but I dont think that adding hearts is the right way to go. There should be a sense of direction in the game and the players should be rewarded for completing whatever is added, and I'm not talking about new animations or hats. Stuff like the boomerang, hammer, hookshot, magic, warp ring, and even a shield upgrade are all more fun rewards then having an extra heart, and I'm sure the list can and would be expanded from there.

I have faith that the current staff will be able to keep a balance with whatever they do end up adding as well, and I don't see them adding pay to win options with Classic.

Posted by *Prey

i dont get what you mean by "dont have interest in questing" when all players have been asking for was a trade system and quest. currently 94 players say we should get the heart quest, and 19 say we shouldnt.

Not all players. There are going to be some, even if it is a minority, who do not have an interest in questing.  

thats ok. its just changes that effect basic gameplay like that ruin the game. it just wouldnt be "iclassic" anymore. if people want more health and more powerful weapons, then they can play era.  

Hp quests would unbalance the game and make it unfair for new players.

I'd rather see custom weapons as a reward.

hp bonuses are better than stupid hats and morphs though.  

Posted by -Albus

I agree, adding quests definitely is the way forward, but I dont think that adding hearts is the right way to go. There should be a sense of direction in the game and the players should be rewarded for completing whatever is added, and I'm not talking about new animations or hats. Stuff like the boomerang, hammer, hookshot, magic, warp ring, and even a shield upgrade are all more fun rewards then having an extra heart, and I'm sure the list can and would be expanded from there.

I have faith that the current staff will be able to keep a balance with whatever they do end up adding as well, and I don't see them adding pay to win options with Classic.

A lot of the weapon-based items would be too powerful for the 3hp maximum and would need to be nerfed to the point of where they are no different to swords/bombs/arrows. The only thing that would be changed is the aesthetic, which is no different to skinning things and releasing a bomb everytime there's a new holiday. I'm not convinced that there are enough weapons to support a solid future without heart upgrades having some presence.

Posted by twilit

thats ok. its just changes that effect basic gameplay like that ruin the game. it just wouldnt be "iclassic" anymore. if people want more health and more powerful weapons, then they can play era.

Yeah! If people want hat shops and no progress what-so-ever they can play Classic and then log onto the forums and complain about how there is no progress and only hat shop updates. Keep yo gameplay Era!!

Posted by Skill

Hp quests would unbalance the game and make it unfair for new players.

I'd rather see custom weapons as a reward.

hp bonuses are better than stupid hats and morphs though.

I assume you didn't play PC Classic then, because this wasn't a problem in Graal The Adventure.  

Posted by Rufus

I am not pursuing questing at all if there are no hearts involved. I'm guessing that Azrael could do a few more gardens though.

Oh god the haloween garden quest was awful... super glitchy and all you did was walk through... the other one was really good though in terms of quality, only downside was it was more repetitive than it was fun and making you use your head.


Also quests are awesome while you play them but once you beat them they're no longer keeping you playing.

What iClassic needs is more fun things to do that stay fun and not just one time things.

Posted by Rufus

Yeah! If people want hat shops and no progress what-so-ever they can play Classic and then log onto the forums and complain about how there is no progress and only hat shop updates. Keep yo gameplay Era!!



I assume you didn't play PC Classic then, because this wasn't a problem in Graal The Adventure.

Played UN. I know the quests on there were horrid, but you couldn't enjoy anything with 3 hearts when everyone else had 13.


If you log on for the first time and you get pkd by people with 5 hearts it might scare you away.


either way I voted yes because I want to see iClassic as a real game and not dumbed down casual game.  

Posted by Skill

Played UN. I know the quests on there were horrid, but you couldn't enjoy anything with 3 hearts when everyone else had 13.

Unholy Nation has no balance at all. I think they've tried to fix this multiple times, but there are just too many stupid things to the point where they've even considered just giving people the hearts from the very start. That is different to how Graal The Adventure was, where new players were offered 'newbie protection' until they felt ready enough to take on the big bad world.