Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM

That's weird, m3 only does 12 damage I'll have a look, idk why he would buff it (if he did) because we were going to nerf it slightly. I think we said a higher bullet reg time so players aren't just spamming it

oh give me a brake with this bullet registration crap, just lower the damn rate of fire.

i noticed that too bout the M3  

Just get rid if stacked damage guns .-.  

Posted by 5hifter

Just get rid if stacked damage guns .-.

The next person who suggests that, I'm going to flip out.

Stacked damage is fine as long as long as its handled correctly. It's when the total stacked damage is too high is when that's bad. Guns without stacked damage aren't shotguns. You'd be making shotguns deadlier without stacked damage, especially if you're far away from the gun when you get hit with a stray bullet.  

Posted by Shock

The next person who suggests that, I'm going to flip out.

Stacked damage is fine as long as long as its handled correctly. It's when the total stacked damage is too high is when that's bad. Guns without stacked damage aren't shotguns. You'd be making shotguns deadlier without stacked damage, especially if you're far away from the gun when you get hit with a stray bullet.

Shock it cant be done. If era had 100hp then shotguns would have no problem at all the way they were.  

Make iEra have 100 hp and double the damage with weapons.
it wouldn't do anything but this thread is about nothing anyway.  

It costs alot. Have you ever considered that?  

Posted by NovaTheWarrior

It costs alot. Have you ever considered that?

So does the Bar, argument irrelevant.  

It's summertime and the kiddos are out of school. It's a good way to generate revenue by making something OP so everyone wants it.. They'll probably nuke it months later.
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Again.

I'm not falling for it, this game is for nubz.  

Posted by Richard

It's summertime and the kiddos are out of school. It's a good way to generate revenue by making something OP so everyone wants it.. They'll probably nuke it months later.
...
Again.

I'm not falling for it, this game is for nubz.

THE KIDDOS ARE LOSER NUBS WHO SNIFF MY *****  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

Shock it cant be done. If era had 100hp then shotguns would have no problem at all the way they were.

There's always a way. I even gave intelligent suggestions showing how it could work (in another thread someplace). No one wants to listen, and that's fine. Graal is getting boring.

And also, another point of argument, it can be done. Because the KSG does decimal damage. The same thing could be implemented on all shotguns. But anyway, alot of games have a damage system that varies or is based in chance. Bullets could even act like those, each that hit have a possible 3-5 damage randomly, giving nearly different damage each blast.  

Posted by PoeticFolly

Make iEra have 100 hp and double the damage with weapons.
it wouldn't do anything but this thread is about nothing anyway.

No i gave a actualy made a list to where all the BAR is par to m4 tomphson etc where the bars kill shot went from 5 bullets to 6 but leaving a target hardly alive at 4Hp i think. too lazy to dig

Posted by Shock

There's always a way. I even gave intelligent suggestions showing how it could work (in another thread someplace). No one wants to listen, and that's fine. Graal is getting boring.

And also, another point of argument, it can be done. Because the KSG does decimal damage. The same thing could be implemented on all shotguns. But anyway, alot of games have a damage system that varies or is based in chance. Bullets could even act like those, each that hit have a possible 3-5 damage randomly, giving nearly different damage each blast.

But it would still be OP. 12-20 damage with that rate of fire is OP no matter what.  

On another similar note why can't the shotgun spawn killing thing be fixed? I think someone said this was fixed before but it didnt seem to be fixed yesterday.  

i noticed a little bit of a difference, but its not the 3 seconds of protection time against shotguns like snk said.  

It's like 1/2 a second against shotguns and 2 or 3 against normal guns  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

No i gave a actualy made a list to where all the BAR is par to m4 tomphson etc where the bars kill shot went from 5 bullets to 6 but leaving a target hardly alive at 4Hp i think. too lazy to dig



But it would still be OP. 12-20 damage with that rate of fire is OP no matter what.

3-5 was just and example. I mean, you can tweak these guns to make them equal to their cost/fairness. 3-4 damage would be better. You could even go to the extreme of the two middle bullets of the spread staying at 3 damage and the bullets on the ends having a possible 3-4 damage. There are alot of options if you know how to think about the possibilities.