I need reassurance that kingdoms is getting it together and will be better in the near future...

Kingdoms was built for roleplay, but nobody does that anymore :/

There really are no quests outside the tutorial...

Players are assumed to be able to find their place in the world but there is nothing there to suggest to them what they could do...

Players start out practically naked. This was to be addressed when Nico was still manager but I don't think he ever got anyone to do it.

Everything is unnecessarily convoluted and many things are not documented or explained to the player thoroughly enough, especially alchemy and the whole religion system.

Lack of variety in weapons and armor. Very linear in terms of gear progression. It's usually just one handed weapons, wands and bows, and almost all armor is a hinderance to the already excruciatingly slow walk speed. Would it kill you to add two handed swords? Maybe some muzzleloaders for the Crescent Pirates? Light armor?

Also, attempting to skip the mostly useless tutorial gets you ironically stuck in it :/  

I fully believe the current GK staff team is doing everything in their power to improve the game. However, with that said, that's not going to be enough.

Hi by the way, I'm Ziro, I've been a developer on and off on GK over the last... 10 or so years. I've worked under all it's managers since then except the current one, meaning Björn, Tig and later Nico. They all tried their best to improve the server from their point of view. The problem is, the server is fundamentally broken in the way that it's based on a very old roguelike game called Crossfire. When unixmad and Stefan first developed the server, they never implemented a lot of the core mechanics from Crossfire into Graal Kingdoms. This is why there are countless of items, spells and general mechanics in the game that does absolutely nothing yet exist for seemingly no reason at all. Another big problem is that most of the server functionality is hardcoded directly into the Graal client. That essentially means that no developer is able to change any of it, and the only person to ever have (Stefan) doesn't even work for Graal anymore.

So, wall of text aside, you're likely to become very disappointed if you ever expect anything out of GK that it already isn't. Even if the staff wanted to make a better game of it, it's practically impossible. The server has been practically exactly the same since it's release in 2002 (or was it late 2001? Can't remember!) with the exception of a couple of new events, crypts, minor edits to existing content and lots of newly added items. It's never gonna be more than that.  

there's like 12 players  

Posted by xXziroXx

I fully believe the current GK staff team is doing everything in their power to improve the game. However, with that said, that's not going to be enough.

Hi by the way, I'm Ziro, I've been a developer on and off on GK over the last... 10 or so years. I've worked under all it's managers since then except the current one, meaning Björn, Tig and later Nico. They all tried their best to improve the server from their point of view. The problem is, the server is fundamentally broken in the way that it's based on a very old roguelike game called Crossfire. When unixmad and Stefan first developed the server, they never implemented a lot of the core mechanics from Crossfire into Graal Kingdoms. This is why there are countless of items, spells and general mechanics in the game that does absolutely nothing yet exist for seemingly no reason at all. Another big problem is that most of the server functionality is hardcoded directly into the Graal client. That essentially means that no developer is able to change any of it, and the only person to ever have (Stefan) doesn't even work for Graal anymore.

So, wall of text aside, you're likely to become very disappointed if you ever expect anything out of GK that it already isn't. Even if the staff wanted to make a better game of it, it's practically impossible. The server has been practically exactly the same since it's release in 2002 (or was it late 2001? Can't remember!) with the exception of a couple of new events, crypts, minor edits to existing content and lots of newly added items. It's never gonna be more than that.

Damn dude.  

Posted by mallard

Damn dude.

It's all true, though. The first time I ever got to mess around on debug, it was easy to tell that some things are terribly wrong with GK at its core. It was basically just built on top of Crossfire's RPG system, so much that it even includes dozens of old monster and object archetypes that were never actually put to use.

Some of those problems were remedied when a few new monsters were added to smooth out the leveling curve a little bit, but it's still a royal pain to max out all your levels and armor. And even when you do, there's not a lot to do besides PvP and Events, or farm items that are fairly worthless.

While it looks like a good sized team is working on it now, updates still seem to be few and far between. I hope they can pull it out of the gutter, but only time will tell.  

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...46#post1735646

Its not that important but its likely to see it why.  

It's GK, don't worry about it.  

gks fun might rejoin it later  

Sounds like the classic Graal problem, in which they need to hire actual professional programmers.  

Hate to be a pessimist but you have to question whether all the effort it would take to "fix" GK is worth it instead of, say, making a new game or even just a new Graal server from the ground up.

But you really gotta hand it to these guys who are trying to improve it.  

Posted by Sardon

gks fun might rejoin it later

lol dude I hate you  

I was apparently hired as a public relations for GK awhile back. The thing is, they had no idea what to do with us right after hiring and now its been about a year and I haven't heard anything.  

Posted by Kendama

I was apparently hired as a public relations for GK awhile back. The thing is, they had no idea what to do with us right after hiring and now its been about a year and I haven't heard anything.

If you were to ever try to become a professional in the field of PR, this post could destroy your job prospects.

Posted by MattKan

Hate to be a pessimist but you have to question whether all the effort it would take to "fix" GK is worth it instead of, say, making a new game or even just a new Graal server from the ground up.

But you really gotta hand it to these guys who are trying to improve it.

From earlier in the thread it sounds like people are trying to reconcile client functionality with custom functionality. It shouldn't even be an issue for any professionally coded game. Problem is that Graal, for the most part, isn't professionally coded, and there's an incredibly reasonable distrust of letting volunteers access the game's source code.  

Posted by deadowl

If you were to ever try to become a professional in the field of PR, this post could destroy your job prospects.



From earlier in the thread it sounds like people are trying to reconcile client functionality with custom functionality. It shouldn't even be an issue for any professionally coded game. Problem is that Graal, for the most part, isn't professionally coded, and there's an incredibly reasonable distrust of letting volunteers access the game's source code.

I am shipping out to the military in a couple months I don't give a **** about that Xd
Not to mention my post was just stating the honest truth and nothing bad.  

Shaun White appears to have suffered a major back injury during the event. Here we go to the Burton PR spokesperson--

"I was apparently hired as a public relations for Burton awhile back. The thing is, they had no idea what to do with us right after hiring and now its been about a year and I haven't heard anything."