No I did not buy it yet, but the new shotgun has been heavily criticized for being far too slow and weak for it's price. I've never seen a bullet based gun with so much freeze. This is like the old m3 without stacking damage. In fact, it's actually worse than the m3.

M3 is like better than Pl9 in every single way. M3 has practically the same stats as Pl9. The main difference is that m3 stacks damage and pl9 does not. Both deal 4 damage. Both seem to have the same rate of fire. Both have similar freeze rate. Yet m3 is far cheaper than pl9.

Pl9 = $15,000
M3 = $5000

So what's the unique selling point for Pl9? Pl9 has quickly spread throughout the era community as a gun that you should never buy.

Goes without saying that the community requests a buff on the pl9. It's a rip off gun. I'm concerned about the people who decide to buy the pl9.

Discuss about the pl9.  

Ah ha! finally someone tells me about it. Guess this is off my "Maybe Gonna Buy" list.  

Mention the pbp to cus the m3 shouldn't even be in the same class as the pbp  

Nerf the m3 and buff the PL9.  

Posted by Alan Harper

Nerf the m3 and buff the PL9.

This. Otherwise you're essentially screwing over the players who go for the more expensive one.  

I will pass this onto guns admin  

Just make all shotguns not stack damage and maybe buff pl9 a little if it still needs it.  

I want to say thank you for putting together a post with the reason why it isn't good. This is how a post should be with valid statements. Thank you.

As olirus said, we will pass it on to the gun admins for review.

Why no stock damage on shotguns? yw  

They become too OP. They kill far too easily and you cannot dodge all the bullets if you are in a small area. The m3 is very cheap but it just as good as expensive guns now because of the stacked damage.
Also when you die, you can respawn with low hp if people with stacked damage guns are shooting you. Dunno if its a glitch or what.  

I've just changed it so you can't be hurt for 3 seconds after you revive, let me know if this caauses issues  

Thanks  

Bit off topic but I'd like to hear your opinion on the M8A1, personally I think it's overpowered because it's bullet spread is too random and hard to dodge, what you guys think?  

Posted by musical

Bit off topic but I'd like to hear your opinion on the M8A1, personally I think it's overpowered because it's bullet spread is too random and hard to dodge, what you guys think?

I does cost 65k. And accuracy count if you're not just gonna spam the gun all the time.  

i bought it and its a rip. it needs a higher rof less freeze and maybe 1 more damage. if the bullets stack then the stats are fine.  

Posted by BabyGhost

No I did not buy it yet, but the new shotgun has been heavily criticized for being far too slow and weak for it's price. I've never seen a bullet based gun with so much freeze. This is like the old m3 without stacking damage. In fact, it's actually worse than the m3.

M3 is like better than Pl9 in every single way. M3 has practically the same stats as Pl9. The main difference is that m3 stacks damage and pl9 does not. Both deal 4 damage. Both seem to have the same rate of fire. Both have similar freeze rate. Yet m3 is far cheaper than pl9.

Pl9 = $15,000
M3 = $5000

So what's the unique selling point for Pl9? Pl9 has quickly spread throughout the era community as a gun that you should never buy.

Goes without saying that the community requests a buff on the pl9. It's a rip off gun. I'm concerned about the people who decide to buy the pl9.

Discuss about the pl9.

If iEra is supposed to be a copy, then the PL9 should technically do less than the M3, but be fully auto with a large clip.