Let’s have arabian prince abood invite us over to Texas 5 star hotel and have 7-ives vs. Sage GST there. Also Rashard vs Thallen. I’ll be invited to record live.
Westbrook ur names no where to be found.  

Brett has gone negative in every single important GST match ever, even if his team won or lost  

westbrook all trolling aside your knowledge of the US guild as a whole is clearly lacking for grouping shiden with other players. shiden is somebody i got added to the guild in a failed attempt at a revival, he never actually did anything with the tag. is he a great player? of course, probably an easy top 10 idevice sparrer right now.

as a response towards your trolling portion i’ll just say that the earliest iterations of the VIS team (basically wonder) easily consisted of overall better players than it does now, and US was beating them. seeing as they just won the gst, to suggest that an active US wouldn’t even come close to placing is unfathomable.  

Posted by Comyt

nah dark is completely right i’m sure the whole US roster would shudder in fear at the prospect of fighting against (wonder) where carnage can drop 5 hits in 4 rounds and come out victorious, right now is the peak of gst competition and these overrated sparrers would stand no chance in their primes.

I can say the same about teams like “klassy” and “northern signs” winning? Look at the rosters and they are all no names. Fluke teams will always sneak through and get lucky, it’s only best of 3/5

Posted by Zetectic

Let’s have arabian prince abood invite us over to Texas 5 star hotel and have 7-ives vs. Sage GST there. Also Rashard vs Thallen. I’ll be invited to record live.

Yeah bad idea, some freak like Rusix or Qes would roll up in full American teen shooter mode.  

ITT people counting out rufus, prado, etc who almost have 10x spar ratios who actually fought vs decent players vs modern sparrers who just grind off hoards of brazilians and pinoys talking about how easy things were back then...lol get real. all of you active sparrers would still get decimated by the likes of anyone who was an active sparrer on UN (ares, brett, david, thallen, squirt, prado, etc) in a 1v1 even tho theyre all basically inactive minus maybe brett

Posted by Darkk

Yea 7ives would win at ease, followed by a handful of “we can’t hit them wtf” excuses –Opinion of the sole member of the 3/3 finals mvp club vs 40 year old US sub (?) lol

David would do well; the rest would be running into our delay ‘old man aggro pc’ style. Would be a blood bath, with more time spent complaining than sparring

the same 7ives that just lost to wonder? good banter mate.
lemme know when you win a gst or 5  

Don’t compare David to the likes of Ares that’s a joke  

David the only time you ever comment on spar threads its about brett, Seems kinda sus to me bro but i still fw u lol

As for you comet, I simply listed people on the US tag. If you want to provide me a “accurate” list of US members you can do so, but I still believe only ares, brett and shiden would be as dominant as they were back then unless theres more names im missing. Up to you but regardless of how many names you show me i’ll still believe you suck. Prove me wrong

My point still stands crono. Many US people were good, solid or medicore but overall the guild is highly overrated.
Equal comparison: A group of delteria devs programming the game, understanding all mechanics and getting practice for years, wins a deteria gst for 2 years straight and then once good ppl start showing up they dissipitate  

Posted by MikvaGraal

Don’t compare David to the likes of Ares that’s a joke

100% agree. I've won in the past 50 years

Anyways, who cares about who won forever ago
It's irrelevant to the game today

Posted by Westbrook Graal

its about brett

Because I think it's hilarious that everyone regards him the way they do but can't reference one GST where he went positive against an important team (this actually isn't an exaggeration, if someone can go ahead and show me one match I'll gladly eat my words)  

Posted by David

100% agree. I've won in the past 50 years

Because I think it's hilarious that everyone regards him the way they do but can't reference one GST where he went positive against an important team (this actually isn't an exaggeration, if someone can go ahead and show me one match I'll gladly eat my words)

Why is Brett getting attacked and how does that involve him? Brett never cared about GST unlike some of you guys who practiced for hours and made plan A, B, C, D... he just participated because why not.
He does care about single spar and he Always calculate and plays patient most of the times. Which is why non of US original members can beat him in single spar in Today’s era.
But again, he is not winning with the ratio he used to win withthe olden days and nobody is. Old sparers are overrated and their ego is over a while ago.  

if we’re talking gs
ares>brett>shiden>david>winter>Cromo>Kuolji>Comet

in 1v1 david and shiden switch, brett and ares switch.

BTW Crono, if its so easy to win in todays era (not saying it is or isnt) I want you to go streak 30 and record. Go higher if youd like or just record 15 minutes of you nonstop queueing and sparring.

Im a pc sparrer who rarely if ever spars on ios and just got a new phone of a completely different size and i guarantee on this phone i will outperform you in terms of W-L in those 15 mins. Or we can do 20 spars each, we will record and tally both dont worry. You can be on pc  

Posted by Saeed

Which is why non of US original members can beat him in single spar in Today’s era.

Yeah, except I have. **** on him with a flaw below then won it all to proceed to the finals
Shout out to James for taking down the full video of him going full ****** on mic while witnessing this

*bonus video on that channel of me flawing Demrow after owning him 10 times as well for all the weird obsessed spar historians of graal  

Posted by Westbrook Graal

Crono, if its so easy to win in todays era (not saying it is or isnt) I want you to go streak 30 and record. Go higher if youd like or just record 15 minutes of you nonstop queueing and sparring.

i dont have the attention span to streak but my streak on crono from like 2012 is 10 while my noob account that i was streaking on the other week is 12

guess it's settled, we had it harder back in the days afterall

Posted by Saeed

Which is why non of US original members can beat him in single spar in Today’s era.

good thing brett was in US, and david and/or ares could take him. thallen, our 1 time US gst winner (youll always be US buddy), could too.  

westbrook posts r just trolling he says i suck while never posting a win against me then proceeds to list off “better players” who i have an 80+% win rate against  

Posted by Crono

good thing brett was in US, and david and/or ares could take him. thallen, our 1 time US gst winner (youll always be US buddy), could too.

Thallen doesn't really count as a US original member. I don't think Ares can take him he might have been good in the past but from what I saw of him in single spar this year, he is not a great sparer. Not sure about David either, I don't think he will be able to spar as good as he used to either. Not that because him and ares are rusty, it's because of today's graal server performance. Even the ping for Americans is higher than it used to be.
Although Brett is great in single spar he isn't so good in gs because he doesn't care about it. I'm still in my word, US old team can't win a gst in today's era. You can't really count Thallen in US either  

I'm waiting for the day a team will come along that actually forces alumni to play the game for more than 3 days prior to the tournament

to put my 2 cents in, unless US practiced A LOT, then they wouldn't meet the qualification above either. They're all fantastic 1v1 but either they don't care enough about guild spar or their brain melts some whenever they do it (pc US, I still think some of the idev US ppl are relevant today if practiced)