BAN REFORM:too harsh ban times:unfair bans - 3

Yephenpeace · 04-05-2012

Please stay on topic guys!

So is this thread basically saying there should be a "terms of service" you have to agree to before playing?

BlaZe · 04-05-2012

Truthfully, I'm on neither side.

MrSimons · 04-06-2012

2500 hours for accidentally having an in-app cracker while purchasing gralats? Why not a message popping up saying "You have an app cracker installed, please remove it and then make your purchase."

Ace · 04-06-2012

Posted by Mr.$imons

2500 hours for accidentally having an in-app cracker while purchasing gralats? Why not a message popping up saying "You have an app cracker installed, please remove it and then make your purchase."

THIS.
Because it's annoying when your cracking other games and you have to take it off when using graal

Skill · 04-06-2012

Posted by DragonRider

They should just add a pay to be freed option while they're at it.

"bailing"

Higbey · 04-06-2012

No staff replies other than yephen

Elusive · 04-06-2012

Patience is a virtue

RileyFiery · 04-06-2012

Posted by Higbey

You cannot cite the terms of service

Create a level that forces people to see the TOS.
Make it so they have to agree to play. That would solve that problem.
I don't play Graal Online in any form, so I don't know what's going on.

[Laughed at the comments aimed towards Spoon.]

Shaun · 04-06-2012

Posted by Shawn

I would like to introduce you to the other Shawn/Shaun.

I've been here from the start, kid. You don't have to introduce me.

Shaun · 04-06-2012

Posted by Yephenpeace

I understand what you're saying, but you really shouldn't have iAP anyway. You may not have been trying to use it on iClassic, but it's your own fault for having it. I don't think faking purchases on any app is good.

I know it's my fault, didn't say it's not. But please... a month?

Skyzer · 04-06-2012

Higbey · 04-06-2012

Okay...

Skyzer · 04-09-2012

Anything less than three months is child's play.

Era News · 05-05-2012

Posted by Higbey

he doesnt, he was banned that long and no one would help, and honestly its not really graals staffs discretion over what we have on our idevices as long as we dont use them on graal,

sometimes games are greedy, and in app purchasing is deserved for them making something cost alot,

really, i understand protecting the app, but attacking the players over having it? its not our fault, its legal to jailbreak, its not graals concern, and i feel like stefan was just being vindictive and overprotective.

now we need matt to see this so he can do this, we will not take no for a answer.

Lol and snk to see so he can unban me, anyways *bump* because I still think this is a valid point.

Dizturbed · 05-05-2012

The punishments that are given are frequently severe, excessive and ridiculously inconsistent. The discretion that staff have over determining the length of a ban is too broad. There should not be a disparity of standards because variant standards result in inconsistent enforcement.

The original Classic server on PC wasn't even this ridiculous. I hate to see Graal deteriorate to the point of where "boosters" kills are reset entirely after such offense. "Boosting" should not be an offense where your kills are reset. If punishment is necessary for this, I think a short ban would be more appropriate. You might disagree but if you were playing Graal in the days BEFORE the NPC-Server was implemented onto Classic you should remember that Kills, Hours, Deaths, and Spar Rating were "protected" stats and could be not edited by ordinary staff. That is how I believe it should be now. I understand that boosting affects Scoreboards, but IDGAF about scores and rankings, they should be abolished. The original Classic didn't have them nor needed them.

I have to agree that there should be some reasonable reforms to banning procedure (If one even exists...if one doesnt, it should be implemented) and please fire all the incompetents who are even capable of giving these senseless excessive lengthy bans for offenses that warrant short bans. Please get rid of the staff who have faulty judgment or train them to exercise good judgment

. Off-topic, if you use the term booster you originated from a new generation who needs to be educated on proper Graal terminology...The correct term is LAMER! STOP USING THE WORD BOOSTER, OMG. Lamer was the word until the iPhone server spawned and corrupted the established terminology. Cease circulating this mislabel

TL;DR Stop giving long bans for minor offenses. Stop using term "Booster/Boost, use term "Lamer/Lame" instead. AND STOP RESETTING KILLS, IT'S WRONG!

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Dizturbed Guest Posts: n/a	The punishments that are given are frequently severe, excessive and ridiculously inconsistent. The discretion that staff have over determining the length of a ban is too broad. There should not be a disparity of standards because variant standards result in inconsistent enforcement. The original Classic server on PC wasn't even this ridiculous. I hate to see Graal deteriorate to the point of where "boosters" kills are reset entirely after such offense. "Boosting" should not be an offense where your kills are reset. If punishment is necessary for this, I think a short ban would be more appropriate. You might disagree but if you were playing Graal in the days BEFORE the NPC-Server was implemented onto Classic you should remember that Kills, Hours, Deaths, and Spar Rating were "protected" stats and could be not edited by ordinary staff. That is how I believe it should be now. I understand that boosting affects Scoreboards, but IDGAF about scores and rankings, they should be abolished. The original Classic didn't have them nor needed them. I have to agree that there should be some reasonable reforms to banning procedure (If one even exists...if one doesnt, it should be implemented) and please fire all the incompetents who are even capable of giving these senseless excessive lengthy bans for offenses that warrant short bans. Please get rid of the staff who have faulty judgment or train them to exercise good judgment . Off-topic, if you use the term booster you originated from a new generation who needs to be educated on proper Graal terminology...The correct term is LAMER! STOP USING THE WORD BOOSTER, OMG. Lamer was the word until the iPhone server spawned and corrupted the established terminology. Cease circulating this mislabel TL;DR Stop giving long bans for minor offenses. Stop using term "Booster/Boost, use term "Lamer/Lame" instead. AND STOP RESETTING KILLS, IT'S WRONG! Last edited by Dizturbed; 05-05-2012 at 11:50 AM.

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Yephenpeace Love to all Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 1,406	Please stay on topic guys! So is this thread basically saying there should be a "terms of service" you have to agree to before playing?

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BlaZe Registered User Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Illinois Posts: 24	Truthfully, I'm on neither side.

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MrSimons :) Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: no. Posts: 10,309	2500 hours for accidentally having an in-app cracker while purchasing gralats? Why not a message popping up saying "You have an app cracker installed, please remove it and then make your purchase."

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Higbey Not Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Hell Posts: 4,885	No staff replies other than yephen

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Elusive Bazinga Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 575	Patience is a virtue

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Skyzer Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Hampshire, United States Posts: 3,135

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Skyzer Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Hampshire, United States Posts: 3,135	Anything less than three months is child's play.