Posted by Vulcan Blaze

Oh and also, some people will be feeling like this, if you continue:

You won't have to quit once the server is shut down for being nonprofitable.  

GG.  

Posted by Santa Claus

100 but in wood cutting I believe the lvling system is kinda poop but still is easy if you use pc.

Mining has more rocks to earn cash from and quicker to lvl up since their rocks give higher exp.

Hey we're can you play old west on pc anyway  

GG.  

Lets just agree that we should start fishing instead of mining/wood cutting since you get more money by fishing.
Mining and wood cutting just gave us like extra 3 or 4 maybe 10 more gralats.

Posted by Vulcan Blaze

The reason many players left Classic and Era, and such other servers was due to almost being forced to buy gralat packs for literally every new content that was being released.
I do not wish this to happen to Ol'West.
I understand why it is somewhat necessary for you to do it, as it allows the server to remain running, as it gains a profit.
But. Becoming like Classic and Era would most likely result in a great deal of player-loss, Ol'West is like an escape from such servers, and to become similar would not be a great idea.
I think nerfing mining and woodcutting was a reasonable things to do, but do not nerf anything further, unless you can explain a legitemate reason for doing so.
Also im not very familiar with the fishing job, but im very assured that it allows you to gain quite a lot of gralats, especially the added bonus of beeing able to get chests, and selling the rare melees for even more gralats, so I would suggest that if you nerf two jobs, you nerf them all, and make sure they are all equal.
Bug catching is fine, as it is only a side-job, not quite a huge job, as it was nerfed awhile back, same with such things as looting and panning, so my only real concern is fishing, unless I am incorrect, as I said, I am not entirely familiar with the job.

Oh and also, some people will be feeling like this, if you continue:

Thats actually the point that I quit all the severs and moved to Ol'West, if this continues to nerf, I'm out of Graal.  

I don't want to say this but... Let's add ads. Watch 1 video to get 100 gralats or something.  

No.  

Yes  

Posted by Vulcan Blaze

The reason many players left Classic and Era, and such other servers was due to almost being forced to buy gralat packs for literally every new content that was being released.
I do not wish this to happen to Ol'West.
I understand why it is somewhat necessary for you to do it, as it allows the server to remain running, as it gains a profit.
But. Becoming like Classic and Era would most likely result in a great deal of player-loss, Ol'West is like an escape from such servers, and to become similar would not be a great idea.
I think nerfing mining and woodcutting was a reasonable things to do, but do not nerf anything further, unless you can explain a legitemate reason for doing so.
:

So how do you explain that classic and era continue to have the highest player counts of any graal servers right now if they lose so many players to high prices?

heres a legitimate reason for you i posted above.

Posted by Slick Vogediz

its not just about gralat packs tho its about how easy it is for anybody to buy whatever they want without putting in much work to get it. whats the fun in a game where you don't have to work hard to get stuff? there is no sense of accomplishment there.

 

Really now? When was mining for hours for a decent amount of gralats 'easy'? Took hours to level up and it was grindy. Not easy. I will agree that the bugs were too easy. Yes I thought it was removed but I will say sorry that it just has a low spawn rate. But what is the point? Let's just nerf the grindy jobs and even one of those jobs that has low pay anyway. I see it now. Nerf to jobs and more expensive items. Hello Era 2.0. Really thought West would be unique but now I'm seeing less of that.  

Posted by Slick Vogediz

So how do you explain that classic and era continue to have the highest player counts of any graal servers right now if they lose so many players to high prices?

An explanation for a great deal of the player count is that most people have already spent a lot on gralat packs, and wouldnt want to leave the server.
Or they are just addicted to the game.
Also they were like the first graal games for ios etc, so they had the greatest player count to begin with, and people may not wish to leave the servers as they have spent so many hours and so much money on the games.

In terms of this:

Posted by Slick Vogediz

its not just about gralat packs tho its about how easy it is for anybody to buy whatever they want without putting in much work to get it.

Your right that you will get a greater sense of accomplishment for getting a certain item, as you have worked so hard to get it. But most people do not really want to waist more of their lives attempting to get new content by mining etc.

Posted by Slick Vogediz

whats the fun in a game where you don't have to work hard to get stuff?

Whats the fun in a game where you attempt to waist your time trying to earn in-game currency (when it is made hard to earn), and where everyone else seems to just be buying the in-game currency and not actually doing game jobs for it.  

I don't really mind it. I mean, it's not like new content is released every single day and removed the next day - making it hard for us to earn enough sellables to buy the stuff we want. It's not like that.

There's a lengthy amount of time before new content is released. This means that it would give us enough time to do jobs. That does not mean we have to waste our lives mining/fishing/woodcutting etc. A few weeks/months is enough time to allow players to save up their sellables. There's not much to do anyway.  

Posted by Vulcan Blaze

An explanation for a great deal of the player count is that most people have already spent a lot on gralat packs, and wouldnt want to leave the server.
Or they are just addicted to the game.
Also they were like the first graal games for ios etc, so they had the greatest player count to begin with, and people may not wish to leave the servers as they have spent so many hours and so much money on the games.

exactlyt! players feel attached to a server because they have had to invest something into the game whether that be time, money, or both! thats how you build a player base! i feel like a lot of ol west people feel like they can easily come and go because, oh i only have to play a couple hours to buy all this new stuff i want no problem. they don't have to commit to the server to get anywhere so they dont end up building relationships in ol west because they dont have to stay very long to get anywhere. then they go back to whatever other server they play on because thats where their friends are.

Posted by xSupah*

Really now? When was mining for hours for a decent amount of gralats 'easy'? Took hours to level up and it was grindy. Not easy. I will agree that the bugs were too easy. Yes I thought it was removed but I will say sorry that it just has a low spawn rate. But what is the point? Let's just nerf the grindy jobs and even one of those jobs that has low pay anyway. I see it now. Nerf to jobs and more expensive items. Hello Era 2.0. Really thought West would be unique but now I'm seeing less of that.

well maybe level up scaling jobs are not the right kind of jobs for graal then if they feel so "grindy". If the only thing that makes ol west unique and worth playing is easy money then it is going to fail as a server because that shouldn't be the only reason somebody chooses ol west over era or classic.  

I just log on buy all the New stuff and log off lol.  

Posted by Bram-

I just log on buy all the New stuff and log off lol.

My point proven right here! Thank you Bram.