Having been towering since almost the start of towering I have seen almost all the changes to towers and guilds.

I just want to start a thread where people can talk about what they think should be changed.

I for one think that 1k hats are now basically dead.
They are being achieved so fast by so many guilds that they are basically worthless.
Guilds are also gladly accepting stolen or just slightly edited gfx for their 1k hat or just some rushed piece of trash.

Why? Because they want to get their hat and then to rush to another guild to get 1k AGAIN.
Its basically the same 5-10 groups of people jumping from guild to guild getting 1k again and again.
And those who don't do that only can hold a tower for a few hour till they get flooded and the towers taken.

That leads me to my next point, ALLIANCES!
Almost every guild on the map at any point have an unofficial alliance, with the exception of pking.
They barely attack each other to take the tower.
This is because they all just want to reach 1k fast and move on (as I said before) to another guild to get another 1k hat.

Is there any way anyone can think of that would change this?
I remember long ago admins would broadcast that certain guilds at towers were looking for a challenge and asked players to attack the tower.
I think this kinda stuff would help bring towering back to life.

Also what kind of changes to towers would you guys like?
I think I would like the spawns to be changed because 90% of the towers spawns mean I spend more time running to the flag than I do actually defending it if the tower does get attacked.  

the spawn of castle is too far when you're just pking/or you're part of an enemy guild  

Posted by Weeno

the spawn of castle is too far when you're just pking/or you're part of an enemy guild

Yeah definitely, I think castle and DW need a change for both spawns.  

Lower the number of hours. Make it a weekly or monthly trophy for the 'best times' (whether that's a hat or whatever) like with the bk/pk stuff that got leaderboards recently...

Maybe make it so that after a set amount of time holding one tower (1 hour?) the guild has to actively pursue a different tower in order to continue gaining time instead of just camping out? Maybe have 1 hour accessable from each tower each day?

Basically I feel make it a little less of a 'long haul' activity... and more engaging to a larger player base rather than just a few no-lifers...  

Just get rid of 1k hats altogether, you will see how many guilds remain because they "like towering and want to be the best towering guild."  

Posted by Pharaoh

Just get rid of 1k hats altogether, you will see how many guilds remain because they "like towering and want to be the best towering guild."

And that makes sense how? Just because you dislike towering doesn't mean you should ruin the activity for the players who enjoy it.

Adding a reward to something can incentivize people to do it more

Removing a reward will make players hate the activity and not do it anymore.

Personally, I think players should be limited on how many 1k hats they can get per year. 1 or 2, so that they'll either not tower or go farther into a guild. So the players who like to tower can still tower without feeling like they are wasting their time. That still removes the reward though, in a way.  

Posted by Areo

And that makes sense how? Just because you dislike towering doesn't mean you should ruin the activity for the players who enjoy it.

Adding a reward to something can incentivize people to do it more

Removing a reward will make players hate the activity and not do it anymore.

Personally, I think players should be limited on how many 1k hats they can get per year. 1 or 2, so that they'll either not tower or go farther into a guild. So the players who like to tower can still tower without feeling like they are wasting their time. That still removes the reward though, in a way.

There was a limit on how man 1k guilds you could have been the owner of(as in when it comes to choosing who gets the hat, the guild owner chooses who gets the hat) once upon a time.
It used to be like 3 or something.
But now people just hand their guild of to their noob account.

I think maybe 1k hats being a thing but the handing out being at something like 2.5k. That way people are like "meh, half way to 5k so why not"  

Posted by UU

There was a limit on how man 1k guilds you could have been the owner of(as in when it comes to choosing who gets the hat, the guild owner chooses who gets the hat) once upon a time.
It used to be like 3 or something.
But now people just hand their guild of to their noob account.

i thought we lived in the capitalist society?!?!

btw who r UU?  

Posted by Pharaoh

Just get rid of 1k hats altogether, you will see how many guilds remain because they "like towering and want to be the best towering guild."

I think thatd almost kill towering though.
Towering is the only reason I have stuck with iclassic for..6 years?
I enjoyed being bombarded with people attacking constantly.

It was really fun, but now it feels like towering is ONLY happening because of 1k hats.
There is literally 4-5 guilds getting 1k a month as opposed to the 10 or so a year I was used to.
Its not only annoying those who I towered with back then but to those who want to go for 5k but know the chances of anyone helping are next to none because the people can just guild jump to 1k 5 times for that and it means 5 times the hats.

Not to mention that the way they changed the leaderboards killed going for 5k or 10k.
Absolutely RUINED it.

Posted by Zetectic

i thought we lived in the capitalist society?!?!

btw who r UU?

I am just me  

Posted by Pharaoh

Just get rid of 1k hats altogether, you will see how many guilds remain because they "like towering and want to be the best towering guild."

Perfect idea so the people who did 5 guilds back to back get 5 1k hats and its ruined for the new people who work harder for their own guild or guild they are in and put more hours then they have?

Those guilds who actully put in work should get a 1k hat

You can still LOVE to tower and want a 1k hat

Thats like saying I wanna see who actully stays around all week to work and not get payed

I mean common its 1,000 hours and depends if you wanna go more

Its hard to change and a touchy topic but maybe make it a challenge/contest after a guild reach/hold a tower for a certain amount of time make it where the guild who can take it and hold for awhile gets somthing or that vip for the month

Tbh idk and it just to touchy to talk about but little changes can help too  

A lot of people attribute the addition of 1k hour hats to the... degeneration of the towering community. Me? I believe the cause started long before that was a thing. Stefan himself had hoped that guilds would take advantage of the towering system to stake their claim and get an image of themselves out there. The big problem is that beyond having your name and guild logo literally on the map... there isn't much to be had in the way of glory and fame. When I think of some way to improve this situation I'll post it in future improvements. For now I'd just like to bring this topic up for discussion.  

wat  

I like Pharaoh's idea. No 1k hat. Just go for 5k hat & 10k mount.  

How I see it is that it's pointless if you're going to 5K and not 10K because it lacks reward if they added hat at 2.5k hours and 7.5k hours or something might help teams to stay consistent

Maybe change the mount to 7.5K and add some like badge for your guild you can hold for 10K hours  

1k hour is not a small number, let me just throw that out there.

someone come up with a brilliant towering suggestion and convince me.