Posted by Daimyo

imo it's really good, it's JesterTheCats' style preference. He worked on classic and isn't fond of detailed, in my opinion it even looks like it would fit on iClassic.



Also when is Graal known for being realistic?

I just answered his question as to why I personally dislike it + wouldn't fit into iclassic's style at all.
I didnt say that graal has ever been realistic but its nice to hear someone elses opinion.
I myself however like more detailed work so I guess graal-styled things aren't really what I prefer then, after all graal can't obviously have detailed art.

I mean it doesnt have to be detailed but it could at least be anatomically correct. The beak and the legs+claws remind me of those of a duck etc. so I really don't understand the sympathy to this piece but I guess thats just my opinion gg  

Posted by Vicipower

I just answered his question as to why I personally dislike it + wouldn't fit into iclassic's style at all.
I didnt say that graal has ever been realistic but its nice to hear someone elses opinion.
I myself however like more detailed work so I guess graal-styled things aren't really what I prefer then, after all graal can't obviously have detailed art.

I mean it doesnt have to be detailed but it could at least be anatomically correct. The beak and the legs+claws remind me of those of a duck etc. so I really don't understand the sympathy to this piece but I guess thats just my opinion gg

I prefer realism aswell, hence why I don't work for iServers. It's just the fact you have to be open to all styles cause that's all artists have. There's not really a right or wrong in art, but I understand what you are saying about the anatomy.  

Posted by Vicipower

The eagle in general looks personally awkward to me so I get why you don't share my opinion.

But since you asked, heres what I dont like so dont take it personal pls:

Its face is just looking weird to me. Maybe look up better reference pictures.
Imo there aren't enough feathers, wingspan is too short and wellp
the chest looks flat.
I've never seen such a pastel palette for a bald eagle, the chest looks too bright compared to the rest of the body (aka wings since its a bird), eagles should have a darker brownish color imo.
Those claws aren't even the ones from an eagle but more of a duck or a goose so gg @ anatomy. Plus there are usually a **** ton of feathers arround the leg itself and then there are the claws.

http://www.petsgallery.info/pictures/bald_eagle.jpg (Unsupported image host)

http://www.robertotoole.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/IMG_0200.jpg (Unsupported image host)

I probably wouldve liked this 2 years ago but wellp

You are kinda of missing the point of it. Please do not call my pieces "badly made" when you yourself can't do any better. We all have our preferences and you are just down right trying to trash me like every artist does on the graalians forums. How about appreciate that Zone has decent graphic artists? Please don't speak for my graphic piece when everything you are saying is just a representation of jealously. You came on this thread to specifically trash the eagle rather than acknowledge the level in which you would know nothing about because you don't play Zone. If you would like, I could totally trash your art thread but its a waste of time as I am content with my artwork and confident.  

Posted by JesterTheCat

You are kinda of missing the point of it. Please do not call my pieces "badly made" when you yourself can't do any better. We all have our preferences and you are just down right trying to trash me like every artist does on the graalians forums. How about appreciate that Zone has decent graphic artists? Please don't speak for my graphic piece when everything you are saying is just a representation of jealously. You came on this thread to specifically trash the eagle rather than acknowledge the level in which you would know nothing about because you don't play Zone. If you would like, I could totally trash your art thread but its a waste of time as I am content with my artwork and confident.

lol wot  

Posted by Vicipower

I just answered his question as to why I personally dislike it + wouldn't fit into iclassic's style at all.
I didnt say that graal has ever been realistic but its nice to hear someone elses opinion.
I myself however like more detailed work so I guess graal-styled things aren't really what I prefer then, after all graal can't obviously have detailed art.

I mean it doesnt have to be detailed but it could at least be anatomically correct. The beak and the legs+claws remind me of those of a duck etc. so I really don't understand the sympathy to this piece but I guess thats just my opinion gg

This is a few words from an artist who has nothing better to do than trash others. Please, take yourself somewhere else because you wouldn't even come close to landing a spot on zone with such a arrogant attitude and nothing to show as your graphics meet standards.  

Posted by JesterTheCat

You are kinda of missing the point of it. Please do not call my pieces "badly made" when you yourself can't do any better.

 

Its honestly pathetic when people who I respect come on to disrespect someone for no reason and doing on a irrelevant thread.  

Posted by JesterTheCat

Its honestly pathetic when people who I respect come on to disrespect someone for no reason and doing on a irrelevant thread.

Ease up dude. She just doesn't like that piece. You seem incapable of accepting that people have different preferences, which you're trying to explain to Vici, someone who has expressed her opinion.  

Posted by Yog

omfg  

Posted by JesterTheCat

Its honestly pathetic when people who I respect come on to disrespect someone for no reason and doing on a irrelevant thread.

First off; its my opinion about your art - not about you, I didnt even knew you existed until now and I still have no clue as to who you are but I'm guessing you made that eagle.

Imo the piece is badly made because of the things I already listed, with your nice few responses there you were basically "trashing" me as a person, thanks to that by the way but I really don't care since I believe I did nothing wrong by critizing a piece I don't like on a public forum where I'm not just gonna make a fake compliment about art I dislike.

I have an opinion and I'm allowed to voice it, if it hurts you then thats too bad for you but if you get hurt by the fact that someone doesn't like your art then well... sucks to be you? It happens in life. There are people who dislike you as a person and then there are people who give you feedback on art so yeah. Why not throw them both into a bowl, gg.

If you want you can feel free to "trash" my art, I'm open to CC and wouldn't get offended nor would I take it personal. I would rather be grateful to take such great advice from someone who obviously seems to be way more skilled than I myself am, looking forward to actual feedback instead of bashing on my art all together.

Posted by JesterTheCat

This is a few words from an artist who has nothing better to do than trash others. Please, take yourself somewhere else because you wouldn't even come close to landing a spot on zone with such a arrogant attitude and nothing to show as your graphics meet standards.

I would rather not apply to even get hired on zone but thanks for the info, I don't quite remember bashing on other peoples art but alright you really seem to follow my posts in the graphics section.
>still dont see why giving feedback is arrogant but okay sorry to hurt your feels

also: I dont have to play on your Oh-so great zone to have an opinion about art I see on here.  

Jesters signature is his reaction.  

Posted by Striken

Jesters signature is his reaction.

Was going to rep you because I thought your sig was a digimon. Then I looked closer. Y U no digimon noob?

Oi Jester, I dislike it too. It's too well done. Too 32bit. You know. Like the game is meant to be. Don't you know we only allow 8k super ultra hd pixels on zone?I can see more than three shades per color. Bad boi. I also saw antialiasing. Even worse boi. But what made me throw up was realizing that it wasn't even sloppily mirrored over. Pffft. You call yourself a graphic artist?

Y u no box hat?

"SKT don't you know it's dangerous to use sarcasm on the internet?"- Taco 2013

<3

Posted by Weeno

Speaking of eagle. The gfx is amazing. 10x better than anything ive seen on zone.

oi dip. u don't like my poorly shaded turkey hat? or my non-shaded and aliased box? or my... wait that's all i've done on zone. do my whiteboard artwork count as gfx? i've made some pretty trees...



oi someone tell me if this is actually for the 4th celebrations k. I cba to get on at 12.  

Posted by Vicipower

First off; its my opinion about your art - not about you, I didnt even knew you existed until now and I still have no clue as to who you are but I'm guessing you made that eagle.

Imo the piece is badly made because of the things I already listed, with your nice few responses there you were basically "trashing" me as a person, thanks to that by the way but I really don't care since I believe I did nothing wrong by critizing a piece I don't like on a public forum where I'm not just gonna make a fake compliment about art I dislike.

I have an opinion and I'm allowed to voice it, if it hurts you then thats too bad for you but if you get hurt by the fact that someone doesn't like your art then well... sucks to be you? It happens in life. There are people who dislike you as a person and then there are people who give you feedback on art so yeah. Why not throw them both into a bowl, gg.

If you want you can feel free to "trash" my art, I'm open to CC and wouldn't get offended nor would I take it personal. I would rather be grateful to take such great advice from someone who obviously seems to be way more skilled than I myself am, looking forward to actual feedback instead of bashing on my art all together.



I would rather not apply to even get hired on zone but thanks for the info, I don't quite remember bashing on other peoples art but alright you really seem to follow my posts in the graphics section.
>still dont see why giving feedback is arrogant but okay sorry to hurt your feels

also: I dont have to play on your Oh-so great zone to have an opinion about art I see on here.

"The feels" you say... Can you just stop and think about what you ever say? First of all, I don't actually have any feelings hurt from your pathetic comments because they are just full of jealously. Lets put this in perspective for once and I will try to explain in simple terminology for you. You hop on the Zone forum, though you rarely do, notice a new post because you probably are so bored out of your mind that you just had to read everything that is in bold. Then you decide to go wayyyyy off topic by critiquing my eagle in which I didn't ask for your advice. I don't care if people like my art or not, its that you get some common sense and put your comments in the correct section which in this case would be art or development. Just stay on topic, alright? I mean there are no real explanations as to why you would make a lengthy comment about it when the thread was not focusing on that. If you were mature enough, youd understand to put your two cents where it belongs.  

Posted by JesterTheCat

"The feels" you say... Can you just stop and think about what you ever say? First of all, I don't actually have any feelings hurt from your pathetic comments because they are just full of jealously. Lets put this in perspective for once and I will try to explain in simple terminology for you. You hop on the Zone forum, though you rarely do, notice a new post because you probably are so bored out of your mind that you just had to read everything that is in bold. Then you decide to go wayyyyy off topic by critiquing my eagle in which I didn't ask for your advice. I don't care if people like my art or not, its that you get some common sense and put your comments in the correct section which in this case would be art or development. Just stay on topic, alright? I mean there are no real explanations as to why you would make a lengthy comment about it when the thread was not focusing on that. If you were mature enough, youd understand to put your two cents where it belongs.

Dude, she's just giving her opinion, no one is jealous of yo eagle. Get it in your ****ing head. She handled it maturely, you're here starting **** bro.  

Posted by ViyGeek

Dude, she's just giving her opinion, no one is jealous of yo eagle. Get it in your ****ing head. She handled it maturely, you're here starting **** bro.

To be fair she did say

Posted by Vicipower

badly made eagly

Posted by Vicipower

I mean it doesnt have to be detailed but it could at least be anatomically correct gg

JTC can create whatever type of interpretation he wants of an eagle, and she seems a tiny bit rude about his choice. While she does point out what's wrong she doesn't provide any encouraging, positive "At least you tried!" words about it, and just goes on about how bad it is/how it is bad. She's just like, "oh, it sorta sucks". Sure, she provides reasoning, but that doesn't lessen the blow - only really makes it worse. I think this is what JTC is talking about, and how she is criticizing him while not looking from a different perspective, such as the artist's himself, to form a well-rounded opinion of the piece.